I just got wrecked.

**fritsje5** · May 19, 2013, 09:09 AM

Hey guys, I assaulted a Seleucid (large) town (after they backstabbed me btw) that had a unit of cataphract elephants in it and 3 other random units. I attacked it with a vetted unit of thorakitai argyraspides (who completely rolled the enemy infantry, my darlings), two units of 4-experience slingers and a unit of 4-experience archers, some javelin cavalry, a family member (Pergamon) and a 3-exp unit of imitation legionaries. Also there were two units of double upgraded levy pikemen. At one point, there was a unit and the unit of elephants left, and I marched down one of the streets to the town square. Thusly arrayed were my forces: the imitation legionaries in front, fire at will enabled, behind them the thorakitai argyraspides (TA in short), behind which came the three units of veteran missile troops, a unit of levy pikemen and the general. Then... the elephants charged.

Well, they didn't really charge (I'm not sure the AI even knows how to do that), but I was prepared for this. The elephants took a volley of javelins from the legionaries, and then a volley from the TA. None died. I was still unworried at this point, I thought, 'Well, they do have 15 hitpoints after all. I'll start shooting them with fire arrows and two unit's worth of sling bullets (which are AP)', which I prompty proceeded with. Not much happened for a while. Then, my legionaries start dropping like crazy. Literally dozens of them die in 5 seconds or so. This sets off my alarm clocks, obviously. I proceed to advance my TA, having complete confidence in their abilities. When they begin to drop as well, I inspect the unit of elephants closer. To my immense horror, none of them has died yet! Oh god. A unit of pikemen goes next, with me practically in tears over the demise of my favourite legion (the thorakites). When the pikemen are killed too, I decide to retreat, as I have no more infantry to throw at these monsters. All my missile units have used almost all their ammo, and still there are zero elephant casualties.

What I wanted to ask is; is this how it's supposed to work? I really have absolutely no idea how to kill these guys, and I hope someone may be able to give me a hint. Also, if this is a glitch somehow, I'd like to know, so I can reload before the battle so I don't have to lose my beloved legions.

Cheers!

**Sertorio** · May 19, 2013, 09:23 AM

There are a lot of Elephant threads addressing this. Seleucid elephants are OP and will be addressed in next patch. You have to either alter their stats to something more manageable or use artillery. Do a search with "elephants" on this same forum.

**Hanti** · May 19, 2013, 02:32 PM

Reload the battle. But before that lower their armour.
Your units had less attack strenght (attack, missile attack) than their armour value (some 40-50 points mostly) - so no hit was effective.
Edit the proper EDU file and lower their armour .. or die (elephants catas are immortal without artillery).