Rome 2 pre-orders six times higher than Shogun 2

[Emperor Domitianus]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/17/tota...sales-in-2012/



It's good to hear Rome 2 is already doing well for CA. I think the DLC is a big factor here, people seem to love the Greek factions.

This was far too obvious. Shogun 2 was a simply remake of the very first TW game. Apart the new graphic and enhancments due to the updates and evolutions started with Empire, it had nothing more to offer. I bough it only for collection when it reached 10€. It wasn't worth more.
Rome is another matter. The Roman time has a higher appealing and it's far more interesting than the medieval japan not to mention the variuos factions the fans love. People was expenting this TW game and so the pre-orders were going to be really higher.

[ptoss1]

This was far too obvious. Shogun 2 was a simply remake of the very first TW game. Apart the new graphic and enhancments due to the updates and evolutions started with Empire, it had nothing more to offer. I bough it only for collection when it reached 10€. It wasn't worth more.
Rome is another matter. The Roman time has a higher appealing and it's far more interesting than the medieval japan not to mention the variuos factions the fans love. People was expenting this TW game and so the pre-orders were going to be really higher.

Says the person named Domitianus.

[Sowilo]

This was far too obvious. Shogun 2 was a simply remake of the very first TW game. Apart the new graphic and enhancments due to the updates and evolutions started with Empire, it had nothing more to offer. I bough it only for collection when it reached 10€. It wasn't worth more.
Rome is another matter. The Roman time has a higher appealing and it's far more interesting than the medieval japan not to mention the variuos factions the fans love. People was expenting this TW game and so the pre-orders were going to be really higher.

Sorry but i have to say what I think. Your a idiot. You assume everyone is as interested in the part of history your interested in. These forums are primary fans of The roman empire because the first game was rome. I personally like The other games just as much. Shogun 2 I was extremely excited for and I played it as much as the others. It was extremely cool to learn and read about the tokagawa family. You assume way to much. Rome 2 will be awesome assuming SEGA lets CA build a good game and the planning for the project is done well. The pre-orders are high because CA is releasing "movie like" trailers because that is what sells to a crowd cool graphics. There are more pre orders because the last game Shogun 2 was very successful and introduced alot of people to total war.

[BeastG33]

Nah basic econ tells you that more pre-orders means we'll see more hype less substance before the game is released...

Surely they'd seek to up the hype if people weren't preordering, so as to make them pre-order?

Your logic flies in the face of... "basic econ."

Sorry but i have to say what I think. Your a idiot. You assume everyone is as interested in the part of history your interested in. These forums are primary fans of The roman empire because the first game was rome. I personally like The other games just as much. Shogun 2 I was extremely excited for and I played it as much as the others. It was extremely cool to learn and read about the tokagawa family. You assume way to much. Rome 2 will be awesome assuming SEGA lets CA build a good game and the planning for the project is done well. The pre-orders are high because CA is releasing "movie like" trailers because that is what sells to a crowd cool graphics. There are more pre orders because the last game Shogun 2 was very successful and introduced alot of people to total war.

Apologizing doesn't excuse name calling. I'm no mod but I've been around awhile. Grown up forums = grown up rules, and for God's sake, grown up insults. If you're going to break the rules and say "you're an idiot," don't embarrass yourself by grammatically butchering your flame.

[The Thin Red Line]

Of all the releases of recent years, a Rome sequel has been one of the most popular requests. It's got the appeal of a huge European empire, which would call to people much more than a Japan-only release. For a European audience, Rome, more than any other option CA have done recently, will sell well.

The Greek pack is the cherry on top.

Nothing unexpected in this.

[Jingles]

Love all the posts about "enjoy the cash, CA", when the employees at Creative Assembly are going to get paid the same whether it's a huge success or merely adequate. They're just developers, guys. There are YouTube Let's Players that earn more money than the average game developer. 90% of the money is going to go to Sega.

[Emperor Domitianus]

Love all the posts about "enjoy the cash, CA", when the employees at Creative Assembly are going to get paid the same whether it's a huge success or merely adequate. They're just developers, guys. There are YouTube Let's Players that earn more money than the average game developer. 90% of the money is going to go to Sega.

Well if the game is a success those guys will be able to make another TW game. So most of their career and successfull job depends on how we like it and if we buy the game. It's something more than simply being paid. Sometimes reputation and success are worth more than vile money.

[Toho]

Well if the game is a success those guys will be able to make another TW game. So most of their career and successfull job depends on how we like it and if we buy the game. It's something more than simply being paid. Sometimes reputation and success are worth more than vile money.

not to mention they might get a raise or bonuses and etc...

[Jingles]

Well if the game is a success those guys will be able to make another TW game. So most of their career and successfull job depends on how we like it and if we buy the game. It's something more than simply being paid. Sometimes reputation and success are worth more than vile money.

Yes that's true, but the notion that Creative Assembly themselves actually see the profits from all these sales ("enjoy that nice swim in that load of cash" for example) is entirely false. They might get a larger budget for a subsequent total war game if it's a big success, but don't expect the developers themselves to be pocketing much extra money.

[StephanVos]

CA should try kickstarter....dump Sega!

[Dan113112]

CA should try kickstarter....dump Sega!

Except SEGA would have to sell them. Which won't happen.

[Little Legionaire]

Well if the game is a success those guys will be able to make another TW game. So most of their career and successfull job depends on how we like it and if we buy the game. It's something more than simply being paid. Sometimes reputation and success are worth more than vile money.

Reminds me the CD Projekt Red and their Witcher series. They're not overrated as Bethesda not their games selling bazillions of copies but they make excellent games, provide deep gameplay experience and lots of fun. And now they develop two games of Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk. Reputation and success matters a lot!

Besides, im going to predorder game in a couple of days (pay check time ) Since the NTW, CA is doing great provide refined and evolved solid rock TW experience. They deserve such a trust imo

[Mary The Quene]

Well done Ca!

[BeastG33]

Congrats, CA. Best part is that I haven't even gotten around to preordering yet, but I'm going to. I have to assume there are a buttload of people like me who either are just waiting for a little more info or literally haven't had the time / decided where to preorder from yet. By the time E3 comes and goes, along with the rest of this summer, Rome 2 preorders are going to be insane...

[oOIYvYIOo]

Nothing that i wouldnt expect .
Thousands of player on TWC comunity and all around TW comunity never bought Shogun 2 or bought it after some months just to check it out.

If Shogun 2 had 20 to 30,000 people on first months , double that number or more with Rome 2.

[* Matolo Swazulu *]

Yeah, it does look promising for CA... but how many people didn't pre-order Shogun 2 as it didn't interest them as much as a game like Rome 2 does? How many of those that pre-ordered have been waiting since the original Rome for a sequel?
How many people are being lured in by good advertising and pricing in comparison to Shogun 2? I'm in no way trying to undermined how popular this has been to pre-order. It just makes me think WHY....

[kieran12]

Yeah, it does look promising for CA... but how many people didn't pre-order Shogun 2 as it didn't interest them as much as a game like Rome 2 does? How many of those that pre-ordered have been waiting since the original Rome for a sequel?
How many people are being lured in by good advertising and pricing in comparison to Shogun 2? I'm in no way trying to undermined how popular this has been to pre-order. It just makes me think WHY....

I saw Rome 2 advertised at 29 pounds on Amazon (that's about 34 Euros). That's dirt cheap. In saying that i hope the low price isn't a sign of a bad game on the way to us?

I pay like about 50 Euros for a game on the console if not more. The PC gamer is spoilt when it comes to game prices.

I did not buy Shogun 2 in the store myself. Reason i wasn't interested in that time of history.

I think you're right there is lot of people who have those fond memories of playing Rome 1. So Rome 2 was bound to get lot of attention when it was announced, by CA.

[* Matolo Swazulu *]

I saw Rome 2 advertised at 29 pounds on Amazon (that's about 34 Euros). That's dirt cheap. In saying that i hope the low price isn't a sign of a bad game on the way to us?

I pay like about 50 Euros for a game on the console if not more. The PC gamer is spoilt when it comes to game prices.

I did not buy Shogun 2 in the store myself. Reason i wasn't interested in that time of history.

I think you're right there is lot of people who have those fond memories of playing Rome 1. So Rome 2 was bound to get lot of attention when it was announced, by CA.

Yeah PC gamers do get cheaper games than their console counterparts. I've seen games which are £5 - £10 cheaper just because they are PC. But lets not forget that PCs, especially gaming PCs, are far more expensive than consoles...

About S2, you were the same as me. I waited till way after release to buy it, simply because CA could fix any bugs, and because it didn't interest me as much as European focused Total Wars have.

Rome 1 is still a popular game, even with casual PC gamers or even people that don't usually play PC games. I certainly do think these things explain the drastic rise in interest.

[Rhaegar1]

People seem to be ignoring the big news here, CA managed to earn 2 miliion last year with no significant release! At CA they might me enjoying the preorders but the 2 miliion is the news a games company is going to become really happy from. It means that right now between big releases CA is still earning a steady income! (which probably is mostly because of (steam) sales and DLC sales I guess)

This is a major reason for developers to keep supporting their games a long time after it's debut. In the past the only reason to do this was to build a strong company name and hope people buy your next game because they are happy customers, but that reason offered much less direct benefits so it was more easy for managers / Sega to ignore if necessary. Creating a steady income without some subscription model is a very attractive reason to use DLC in a game and we benefit from longer updates after game release (as with shogun 2, otoman clan pack and patch 2 years after release)

[Totalheadache]

dont forget people can cancel as well. i am one of those, hanging in the balance.

but am prepared to give CA some more time to release info/demo.