Should be other major factions (Seleucids, Armenians, Dacians, Numidians, Iberian tribe etc.) playable in CUSTOM BATTLES / MULTIPLAYER in all installed RTW2 copies (like RTW, MTW2, ETW, NTW)

[Antiochus]

9 playable factions (because 3 Greek factions aren't for all - not all will buy pre-order) are to small to play custom battles / multiplayer.

In Rome 1 all 19 factions were playable on custom battles / multiplayer. I know that 117 are too big factions for custom battles / multiplayer but I think about 30 major factions.

In Napoleon or Empire more factions than major campaign factions were playable in custom battles or multiplayer, especially Sweden, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Denmark etc. Some were in DLC, Spanish example, but they were playable in campaign as DLC, but in custom battles / multiplayer for all players.

Is possible this solution in Rome 2? Example: Sparta, Athens, Epirus and other major - Seleucids, Armenia, Iberian tribes, Numidia, Bactria etc. will be playable in custom battles / multiplayer for all players after release?

If CA will plan adding Seleucids, Armenians, Numidians to DLC (or Free-LC), they could make similar as Spain, Portugal in NTW - campaign=DLC, custom/multiplayer=all games in release. I don't see any problem with this solution.

What do you think?

[Toho]

my crystal ball says yes... no but serious... how the hell would we know?

[SpecialPH]

Well certainly not all 117, but I imagine all major (beyond the 9 playable) will be available, maybe even w/o DLC ... It wouldn't make any sense not to make them all playable in custom battles/MP ...

[Antiochus]

Toho, we don't know so I ask in poll what players thinking. So if we don't know many things 90% of polls are without sense?

SpecialPH, do you understand this thread? Did you play other TW games? ALWAYS (without Shogun 2) in custom battles / multiplayer were more factions tahn playables in camapign.

[AngryTitusPullo]

No. Only factions that will be playable in the campaign will be playable in CB/MP battles.

[Antiochus]

I don't understand why you voted No. Do you want play Dacians, Seleucids, Iberians and other in multiplayer or custom battles? We don't know which factions will be in DLC and we don't know when. What if Numidians or Scythians won't be playable in campaign DLC? What if they will be in DLC in March 2014? You don't want play them inmultiplayer / battles earlier?

[SpecialPH]

I understood it perfectly, and have been playing TW since the original Rome

Maybe you didn't understand my response ... I meant that all playable factions (announced atm) will be available in custom battles, along with other major factions that will not be playable in the campaign as of now (like Seleucids for example) ... There wouldn't be need to release a DLC (free or payable) to get all the factions into custom battles and MP ... This is all my opinion of course ...

[Jokern]

I voted no because I know with a 100% accuracy that if some of the major factions are only playable in custom/multiplayer battles, people will complain and ask why they weren't made playable. I'm not usually in the mood for that.

[Antiochus]

So you should voted yes, because I think about the same thing.
I think about play them in custom battles / multiplayer after releas of the game, not release DLC or FRee-LC in future. These factions should be playable custom battles / multi from beggining, but release only in campaign after DLC

[Lancy]

Not if they are not as developed as the 12 playable factions (in terms of units and what not). Sure you could use all the factions in RTW's MP but a number of those were rubbish online (Gaul and Spain especially),or generally weaker (Dacia, Thrace, Numidia) and others were ill-balanced (e.g. Germania). And then there were OP factions like Egypt and Brits.

For MP balance it's better to release factions capable of standing up to each other on relatively equal terms, and perhaps with the extra focus on each DLC faction they will be able to.

[Barbarian Nobility]

You can bet your bottom dollar that all those factions will be playable in MPC AFTER you pay for them via DLC

[Chris Death]

CA said there will be no unlockable factions on release - so i'd say no, there won't be
more factions playable than those available to the player.

It would also not be wise to have them playable as like Lancy already said above.

~S~ CD

[karamazovmm]

I vote yes only if they put the seleucids as NON playable.

however I feel the omission of any vietnamese faction on that list quite atrocious, that is pure prejudice

[Stavroforos]

I would like for all factions to be unlocked in custom single-player battles, since it doesn't require the depth of a playable faction on a campaign map.

This is probably one of the areas I disagree most with the game, because let's say for example that you don't pre-order and that you don't order the Greek factions, you won't be able to play as or face against Athens or Sparta in a custom battle.

[eLus1on]

I don't care really, if they are in the game, it's a bonus for me, not fancied by any of the factions you've mentioned

[Manu La Canette]

It would make sense as the campaign scripts doesn't count in MP, although each of these nations would add some real particularities to the MP experience and tactics.

I mean, I would see the Seleucids (non-playable in SP) in MP if CA made some special units and possible strategies (which I highly doubt) to see the faction worthy of play. If not, well what's the point having another hellenic faction in MP along with Macedon, Pontus or whatever with the same unit roster ? What would it add to MP experience except the units colors ?

One unit changing from another faction is not enough IMO to justify the presence of a non-playable faction in MP. All the playable will be in though, which is more than enough to get the best overview of the game possibilities in matter of strategy and tactics.

[PietroMicca]

generally all factions (minor and not) are avaible for custom/multiplayer battles

so I do not understand this poll

[KLAssurbanipal]

generally all factions (minor and not) are avaible for custom/multiplayer battles

so I do not understand this poll

In mods only and games before Empire.

[Toho]

In mods only and games before Empire.

and why CA change their minds now?

[KLAssurbanipal]

and why CA change their minds now?

Nobody said about ALL factions. Some factions (which were in DLC or non playable) were in custom battles or multiplayer in new games, too - Empire, Napoleon. Spain wasn't playable in campaign but was playable in custom battles and multiplayer.