There will be three families as in Rome1?

**pajomife** · May 16, 2013, 01:54 PM

What is the mechanics of the game with the Romans? There will be three families as in Rome1? Or we have freedom to conquer the map as we wish? The game will force civil wars in the initial game,when the true civil wars just happened in late republic,just to make it more difficult if we play with one of thee family ?O if we play as single Roman faction,we have a big problem, Is that 185 conquerable regions for 300 years are to much.
I'm playing Shogun Right now and I have the initial and more 4 in the 40 turn. OK I'm a noob and not a rusher,but in my opinion they will implement the families again and we have to chose one area to conquer and will enter in civil war to son.

**Greve Af Göteborg** · May 16, 2013, 02:03 PM

There will only be one Roman faction, this was answered when the game was announced.

**Darth_Revan** · May 16, 2013, 02:09 PM

1 Roman faction with a choice of 3 families or political factions to choose from.

**magpie** · May 16, 2013, 02:22 PM

I too like the OP would like some indepth information on how CA are planning to work the Roman system.
Okay as far as I can tell there is a senate and 3 Roman families.
If they are one faction how does it work?
If I choose say the julii does that mean the other families are not active in the game?
Who do I fight the civil war with. The Senate I assume, So it will be the julii against the Senate?
How do the politic,s work within the Roman faction?

**stradar1** · May 16, 2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by magpie

I too like the OP would like some indepth information on how CA are planning to work the Roman system.
Okay as far as I can tell there is a senate and 3 Roman families.
If they are one faction how does it work?
If I choose say the julii does that mean the other families are not active in the game?
Who do I fight the civil war with. The Senate I assume, So it will be the julii against the Senate?
How do the politic,s work within the Roman faction?

I would have to guess that CA plans to make it like this you choose Julii family or the other 2 your choice and once you do that start campaign. Now lets say 100 turns later you P off some people in the senate and one of the other families then one of those families probably more then likely spawns an army in one of your settlements kinda like a rebellion. And even maybe the Senate spawns a few army's as well. So basically I think that's how its going to work. I hope in alot of ways it does not work like that but im lead to believe its how it might just work. Id rather there be 4 separate factions for the Romans it makes more sense to me.

But I hope Ca implements this idea they have well if not it might end up a mess.

**Sabre120** · May 16, 2013, 03:07 PM

Perhaps each of the families has a specific goal for the campaign and working towards that goal promotes the popularity of that family to dominate in Rome? If those goals are not fulfilled then another one of the families may try and make a bid for power? I'm not sure whether the families feature is static (In that you choose your family at the start of the campaign and that's it), or whether the families can change fluidly during the actual campaign.

**ptoss1** · May 16, 2013, 03:08 PM

Face it.
We know next to nothing. Which is again, nothing.

**nameless** · May 17, 2013, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ptoss1

Face it.
We know next to nothing. Which is again, nothing.

Actually we do. A lot of information has been posted but because of people like you who love to complain about every single detail including chest hair it's been buried beneath all of these silly redundant threads.

One faction but you choose a family out of the three that gives certain traits and such.

You have representatives in the Senate and as time goes on you can appoint family members to either the senate or to your army. If you appoint family members from the Senate to the army, they are loyal but it weakens your faction in the Senate against the other two families. If you appoint a member from the other families into your army they aren't as loyal but it weakens their faction.

Therefore it's a playing game and eventually it'll lead to a civil war.

**rohirrimelf** · May 16, 2013, 03:52 PM

Will the player who picks rome as a faction be able to command all the units from move 1? Anything comfirmed about this?

**torongill** · May 16, 2013, 04:31 PM

The way I've grasped it from the reveals and the interviews, Each "family" will have a unique bonus. We don't know how administration will work, but as far as army command goes, you will be able to "draft" politicians from the Senate to be commanders. If you draft members of the other families, their family position in the Senate weakens. However, you will have to use those members you have drafted to lead armies in battle. The problem is that if they are successful, their reputation in the Senate and with the People will rise. If a family becomes too powerful, it may elect to start a civil war. The same also happens with your family members - take them from the Senate and they cannot participate in politics, ergo your Senatorial power will diminish and maybe if it gets too low you will suffer repercussions, like family members being prosecuted, being passed over for magistrate positions... The options are many and lots of them scary.

**AngryTitusPullo** · May 16, 2013, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by torongill

The way I've grasped it from the reveals and the interviews, Each "family" will have a unique bonus. We don't know how administration will work, but as far as army command goes, you will be able to "draft" politicians from the Senate to be commanders. If you draft members of the other families, their family position in the Senate weakens. However, you will have to use those members you have drafted to lead armies in battle. The problem is that if they are successful, their reputation in the Senate and with the People will rise. If a family becomes too powerful, it may elect to start a civil war. The same also happens with your family members - take them from the Senate and they cannot participate in politics, ergo your Senatorial power will diminish and maybe if it gets too low you will suffer repercussions, like family members being prosecuted, being passed over for magistrate positions... The options are many and lots of them scary.

You almost read my mind.

**Sabre120** · May 16, 2013, 04:38 PM

I think Torongill's provided a pretty concise idea about what we can expect, atleast until we're provided with some solid evidence.

**RomanGladious** · May 16, 2013, 09:54 PM

I'm curious how will that work assuming they have co-op campaign online because me and my friend both want to be Rome, so will it be that only one of us can be that faction or do you think we can be that faction but choose different family's?

**Le_Swede** · May 17, 2013, 12:58 AM

It has been stated many times by now that Rome, just as Carthage, constitutes just one faction in which you have the option to choose between 3 different sub-factions (families) within the senate. Either which way you choose in regards to family you get to control all of the roman possessions. Thus only one person can play as Rome.

**pajomife** · May 17, 2013, 11:55 AM

That the families based faction have no logic, it was preferable to choose between Optimals and Populars, Rome was a Republic, thus seems a monarchy, and the different patricians families were influential in different era,until the late Republic.

**rohirrimelf** · May 17, 2013, 12:32 PM

"You have representatives in the Senate and as time goes on you can appoint family members to either the senate or to your army. If you appoint family members from the Senate to the army, they are loyal but it weakens your faction in the Senate against the other two families. If you appoint a member from the other families into your army they aren't as loyal but it weakens their faction."

It sounds like this will be a lot of micromanagement. I liked the senate from RTW 1 so this might be allright for me.

Im sure a player who wants to increase his familys reputation will put rival familys generals somewhere in the back babysitting. And uses his own familys generals for offensive campaigns. Im suspecting a lot of players would find it usefull to assasinate powerfull rival generals by sending a one unit general into enemy territorys by itself. Do im not sure if it is possible to recruit single units anymore in rtw2 as i dont know how the new legions will work out. I`m sorry if i said some nonsence. Ive got no clue how much different this game will be from previous tw games like rtw and shogun 2.

**Petroniu** · May 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

The OP has almost 3000 posts and you tell me he hasn't read everything there is to read about the subject? Come on, the guy is trolling us!

**Lord Dakier** · May 17, 2013, 12:57 PM

Roma Surrectum 2 has a pretty good system for this as it shows the family lines of your factions so you know who is part of what so to speak. Rome 2 should definitely build on their system.

**jsully16** · May 17, 2013, 01:11 PM

I'm interested in how the characters will work more than anything.

You will pick one of three families and play Rome as them, but the political battles within will be important as well as the military campaigns. Your generals will serve a few turns then retire from the field and go into politics, where they will continue to contribute to the game in some way. It all sounds pretty interesting, hopefully it's put into practice well.