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    Icon5 Of all the Gauls...

    "horvm omnivm Belgae svnt fortissimi." - Caesar

    "Of all the Gauls, the Belgae are the bravest." - Caesar

    This thread is mainly meant so as not to oversee a certain region which is often forgotten. It is true, there are not many Belgians to represent or 'clamour' for a faction from this region which is why I have taken it upon me to take up the case of the Belgae tribes.

    The Gallic Belgae tribes lived in the northern part of modern day France, Belgium, and southern Netherlands. Situated near the Rhine, the tribes were constantly at war with the Germanic tribes across the Rhine making them fearsome warriors. In fact the Belgae tribes are considered to be a mix between Germanic and Celtic tribes due to the constant intermingling and wars.

    Ceasar noted that they were made fiercer because of the fact that due to their northern remoteness, the Roman merchants trading their efiminate goods (wine, heated baths etc) never made it so far up north. The Belgae, like their Germanic cousins, considered these detractive from the warlike spirit of their race.

    During Caesars time, the Belgae had also conquered large parts of southern England, where they established themselves. Namely the regions from Kent, all the way along the coast to Dorset, conquering territories northwards up to Bristol (the Bristol channel) and north from Kent around where London is situated nowadays. The mainland Belgae kept close bonds with the island Belgae and supported each other, although this ended after the Roman Conquest.

    The Belgae tribes also rebelled, most notably under Ambiorix who destroyed a legion and five cohorts of the Roman army. Which led to the annihilation of entire Belgian tribes as retribution. You can read more about this rebellion and the conquering of the mainland and island Belgae tribes online.

    One last quote in support of the Belgae. During one battle against a Belgae army, Caesar noted that:

    "The enemy, even in their desperate plight, showed such bravery that when their front ranks had fallen those immediately behind stood on their prostrate bodies to fight, and when they too fell and the corpses were piled high, the survivors kept hurling their spears over them as if defending a citadel, and flung back the pila caught in their shields. Such courage accounted for the extraordinary feats they had performed already. Only true heroes could have made light of crossing a wide river, clambering up a steep hill and then launching an assault on such a difficult position."


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    cool
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    I would love a Belgae pack.

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    As you can see from my avatar i would love another gaul/belgic tribe.


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    I think the Belgae would make a good additon as a playable faction in a culture pack.

    Ideally I think we could see four DLC faction packs coming out over time:
    Western Barbarians: Iberian tribe, Belgae tribe, perhaps another Germanic or Briton tribe
    Eastern Barbarians/Steppe: Dacians, Scythians, Sarmatians
    Eastern kingdoms: Armenia, Seleucids, Bactria
    African/Arabian kingdoms: Numidia, Nubia, Saba

    If we saw all of these, that would round out nicely most of the cultures, with a good selection of factions distributed across the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan_warrior View Post
    I think the Belgae would make a good additon as a playable faction in a culture pack.

    Ideally I think we could see four DLC faction packs coming out over time:
    Western Barbarians: Iberian tribe, Belgae tribe, perhaps another Germanic or Briton tribe
    Eastern Barbarians/Steppe: Dacians, Scythians, Sarmatians
    Eastern kingdoms: Armenia, Seleucids, Bactria
    African/Arabian kingdoms: Numidia, Nubia, Saba

    If we saw all of these, that would round out nicely most of the cultures, with a good selection of factions distributed across the map.
    I'd agree with something similar to that yeah but no Iberians as yet, I'd be very surprised if they abandoned this side of the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan_warrior View Post
    Eastern Barbarians/Steppe: Dacians, Scythians, Sarmatians
    More like Boii, Dacians and Thrace. (with Thrace is complicated since it was heavily influenced by the Hellenistic kingdoms since it was a Successor state at some point)
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    At the absolute least, they should make for some awesome regional mercenaries.

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    Well as we already got 3 barbarian factions available I don't see CA releasing another one, considering that they're alike in so many areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugg View Post
    Well as we already got 3 barbarian factions available I don't see CA releasing another one, considering that they're alike in so many areas.
    Yeah more Greek factions

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    Well not bad some Celtic pack including Galatians, Belgae and Celtoiberians would be very nice addition to game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfang View Post
    "Of all the Gauls, the Belgae are the bravest." - Caesar
    The inhabitants of one small village of indomitable Gauls in northwestern France beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    The inhabitants of one small village of indomitable Gauls in northwestern France beg to differ.
    True story but as it has been written in the source book both groups are brave!
    Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    True story but as it has been written in the source book both groups are brave!
    I believe it was Caesar in person that settled that dispute, though he didn't particularly focus on bravery in that case... *ahem*
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    The inhabitants of one small village of indomitable Gauls in northwestern France beg to differ.
    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    True story but as it has been written in the source book both groups are brave!
    I don't know which source book you mean, but i meant this one =)


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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    I don't know which source book you mean, but i meant this one =)

    Yep a highly valued scholarly source book methinks
    Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    Yep a highly valued scholarly source book methinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    I don't know which source book you mean, but i meant this one =)

    He did too, there is an Asterix & Obelix strip in which the village challenges the Belgae to defeat as many romans as possible, but they tied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfang View Post
    He did too, there is an Asterix & Obelix strip in which the village challenges the Belgae to defeat as many romans as possible, but they tied.


    Nice, I don't remember reading this one.

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    I'd love to see the Belgae. I think Iberia needs it's own little bit of loving first though.
    I want the Brigantes and Belgae and perhaps another Gaul faction in a culture pack.

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