Hoplite Formation Issue, has anyone resolved it?

**Arkangel** · May 14, 2013, 06:54 AM

Hello, I dont post on forums often, I'd consider myself quite the RSII fanatic and have played it alot over the past year, but the damn Hoplites not only ignore my commands to rank in a certain place but often at the start of a siege when the enemy sally forth, my army just goes running into the opposing army (not charging/attacking just running through them)

It's the same issue for both these problems but has anyone ever fixed it? I've used the formation tool in 2.5s parameters tool and deleted map.rwm, any other advice? thanks <3

**ur-Lord Tedric** · May 14, 2013, 07:02 AM

Do you use Guard mode? Do you issue attack orders, or just tell them to advance? Do you use Alex as an engine?

Any and all of these may help.

**Arkangel** · May 14, 2013, 08:05 AM

I use guard mode but not often when advancing, I use attack orders and I use BI as an engine

**Arkangel** · May 14, 2013, 03:24 PM

Bump?

**Sertorio** · May 14, 2013, 05:18 PM

Maybe animation ? have you tried different distances on ordering a charge ? I will pay more atention to hoplites and see if it happens on y battles.

**Post Hoc** · May 14, 2013, 06:04 PM

If you could upload a short 10 second video where this happens that will help us with helping you.

**xsithspawnx** · May 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

I'm not sure if this is your issue, but if you besiege a city with no walls and the enemy sallies out at you your troops will bug out and run in all different directions. Solution; assault cities without walls instead of letting the defenders sally out.

If you're just talking about Hoplite's messed up formation when lining them up, I've asked about this multiple times myself and as far as I know this issue is still unsolved/unexplained. It's somewhat annoying, but not game-killing (for me at least). I haven't had issues with my units not obeying orders though, so I'm not sure what to tell you there (assuming it's not during the afore-mentioned scenario).

**the man, the myth, the legend** · May 14, 2013, 11:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYK-qv4ozmQ

Here's a vid of the hoplite formations prob. This particular video doesn't show the problem at its worst but you can still see whats going on. I'm using the alex.exe and the hoplites on one side has guard mode on the other side off, but I don't think it makes a difference.

**ur-Lord Tedric** · May 15, 2013, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by the man, the myth, the legend

.....
Here's a vid of the hoplite formations prob. ....

Interesting - but what I saw there begs a question - are those units formally in a 'line' formation to start with - for it looked just like you had ordered them all forward to a particular location and they were starting to gently converge - as they obviously will?

Overall, however - don't 'attack' - but 'move' towards. Attacks are always attempting to move everyone to the centre of the enemy formation (this is one reason when pursuing cavalry fail to run down the last remaining men of a broken formation - for the 'centre' is often between the outlying sprites and they then cannot fight them.