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    Default Any special cool unique unit for Romans and others?

    Ok the germans have the Berserkers and night riders, the Spartans have the heroes , the iceni the painted superwarrirors ...

    Any other special Unique units for Romans and other factions?

    I especially loved the Arcani units in RTWI

    I reallyhope they come back but what other special units could we expect from the other factions ?

    PS do not even start any Historical debate here please!

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    Default Re: Any special cool unique unit for Romans and others?

    Beserkers look toned down from RTW. Spartan heroes, well I guess thats going along with 300.
    Can't think of any reason to have a super unit for Rome, they didn't have much of a reputation for that kind of stuff.

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    Double....
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    Default Re: Any special cool unique unit for Romans and others?

    Praetorian guard ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleventum View Post
    Praetorian guard ?
    Those are just the General Bodyguard .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts View Post
    Those are just the General Bodyguard .
    Well if you look at 0:09 you can see Roman soldiers with some special helmets, not just normal Legionaries AFAIK



    I guess they are Preatorians
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    Quote Originally Posted by koovie View Post
    Well if you look at 0:09 you can see Roman soldiers with some special helmets, not just normal Legionaries AFAIK



    I guess they are Preatorians
    Boring ...

    I want the masked roman ninjas back ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleventum View Post
    Praetorian guard ?
    An Elite unit more by name than by experience. I guess the most veteran legionaries should be better.

    The best units in my eyes should be guys which did the dirty work. Like Batavian Cavalery which were an Elite Auxillary and the real Emperors Guard.

    For the Seleucids you could take the Agyraspides (Silvershield) but the problem is that they were Elite under Alexander, he gave this shiny armours his best man, but Elite only by name under the Seleucids.

    The most "elite" units are just man which could effort better equipment. I am more a fan of for example Numdian Cavalry or Balearic Slinger, which were extremly effectiv with rather simple weapons.

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    [QUOTE=Marcus Aemilius Lepidus;12841350]An Elite unit more by name than by experience. I guess the most veteran legionaries should be better.

    During the late Empire they degenerated as it's well know, but, during the Principate, when they were introduced they were chosen among the best veteras and they took part to some important battles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aemilius Lepidus View Post
    An Elite unit more by name than by experience. I guess the most veteran legionaries should be better.

    During the late Empire they degenerated as it's well know, but, during the Principate, when they were introduced they were chosen among the best veteras and they took part to some important battles
    The Praetorians were choosen from the best veterans in the republican times when they guarded the standart and the general, but since Caesar and Augustus the German Guard was defending the Dictator/Emperor. Since this time the Praetorians were propably choosen after size and looking as many guards later not primaly of combat experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aemilius Lepidus View Post

    The Praetorians were choosen from the best veterans in the republican times when they guarded the standart and the general, but since Caesar and Augustus the German Guard was defending the Dictator/Emperor. Since this time the Praetorians were propably choosen after size and looking as many guards later not primaly of combat experience.
    I agree with you, but we know they took part in the Trajan and Marcus Aurelius campaigns, and they fought during the Marcomanni's wars as reported in the " De Munitionibus Castrorum " where are listed 4 Praetorian cohorts and 400 Pretorian cavalry. In this sense they are an unique "elite" unit.

    other units could be the "Royal agema" for the Hellenistics and the Hannibal's veterans for Punics
    Last edited by Maleventum; May 13, 2013 at 09:02 AM.

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    Double...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleventum View Post

    The Praetorians were choosen from the best veterans in the republican times when they guarded the standart and the general, but since Caesar and Augustus the German Guard was defending the Dictator/Emperor. Since this time the Praetorians were propably choosen after size and looking as many guards later not primaly of combat experience.
    This is imperial stuff , untill late we dont see any praetorian cohort, the praetorians were simply the generals bodyguards...
    Or praetor guards.

    I hope to see some more unique stuff like the arcani , gladiators or whatever .... Historically fitting or not ...
    Last edited by PROMETHEUS ts; May 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aemilius Lepidus View Post
    An Elite unit more by name than by experience. I guess the most veteran legionaries should be better.

    The best units in my eyes should be guys which did the dirty work. Like Batavian Cavalery which were an Elite Auxillary and the real Emperors Guard.

    For the Seleucids you could take the Agyraspides (Silvershield) but the problem is that they were Elite under Alexander, he gave this shiny armours his best man, but Elite only by name under the Seleucids.

    The most "elite" units are just man which could effort better equipment. I am more a fan of for example Numdian Cavalry or Balearic Slinger, which were extremly effectiv with rather simple weapons.
    I agree on this: Praetorians were an effective elite force in their early times, when they were not simply stationned in Rome doing nothing (Empire). At that time, they were basically the best soldiers the legions had to offer gathered in several cohorts (a smaller sized legion actually).

    Later, auxiliary units such Batavian Alae or veteran legions (the cognomen earned during Caesar's wars shows their deeds) were far more capable than the Praetorians. In the late Empire, the whole Praetorian, still reputed to be the finest soldiers of Rome, get crushed at Milvius bridge by Constantine's veterans (foederati, mostly Germans hardened by war and campaigns) fighting 1 on 2.

    But I think CA is more than well aware of all this. Just take a look at 'elite' units they made up for Empire/Napoleon: these were not the most shiny units but the more effective of their times, like rangers, guerrillas, freikorps, along with Guards regiments...

    I think we shall definitely see 'special' or 'elite' Roman units like Auxiliaries, mounted Alae, plus let's say a 'Gallic' or 'German' legion, whatever.

    Plus, keep in mind we will be able to forge our own elite units by the new legion system: your units will reflect your deeds and your fighting style by the specs they will earn (or lose).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aemilius Lepidus View Post
    The best units in my eyes should be guys which did the dirty work. Like Batavian Cavalery which were an Elite Auxillary and the real Emperors Guard.
    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|Galvanized Iron View Post
    The Imperial German bodyguard, the Auxilia Palatina, the Batavian Auxillia and the Sarmatian Cavalry (along with the First Cohorts) were most likely the very elite of the Roman army. Hope they skip the Urbans this time around...
    Quote Originally Posted by Manu La Canette View Post
    Later, auxiliary units such Batavian Alae or veteran legions (the cognomen earned during Caesar's wars shows their deeds) were far more capable than the Praetorians. In the late Empire, the whole Praetorian, still reputed to be the finest soldiers of Rome, get crushed at Milvius bridge by Constantine's veterans (foederati, mostly Germans hardened by war and campaigns) fighting 1 on 2.
    The setting is about 300 years too early for the legends that were the Batavian warriors.
    Last edited by LemonySniffit; May 14, 2013 at 10:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkamena Diane Pie View Post
    Beserkers look toned down from RTW. Spartan heroes, well I guess thats going along with 300.
    Can't think of any reason to have a super unit for Rome, they didn't have much of a reputation for that kind of stuff.
    Well neither the germans or the spartans of the time then, but we are talking of "GAME" units ... in RTWI Romans had arcani at least and were kind of ninja units , oh also the gladiators ...

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    Well. .
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    Default Re: Any special cool unique unit for Romans and others?

    You know you'll get the Urban/Praetorian cohorts, right?
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    Default Re: Any special cool unique unit for Romans and others?

    triarii? or are those too common?

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    Fingers crossed for flaming pigs.

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