Reasons that UNITS CARDS should be change. CA won't change it, we need a mod (modding proposal)

**Sebt1890** · June 19, 2013, 03:59 AM

Don't care stop being a *********.

**0ldboy** · June 19, 2013, 04:02 AM

I couldn't care any less about unit cards. Really, who cares?
They look fine, I am sure they will work well like CA said.

**BeastG33** · June 19, 2013, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by 0ldboy

I couldn't care any less about unit cards. Really, who cares?
They look fine, I am sure they will work well like CA said.

What do you mean, "who cares?" Anyone who doesn't like the look of the unit cards should care. This isn't one of those "wrong helmet" type of issues; you look at unit cards non-stop during both battles and the campaign map, not to mention they are extremely important in multiplayer when you need to be able to easily distinguish one unit from the other.

**August** · June 19, 2013, 04:05 AM

Mod anything you like. Modders are exactly the reason I am proud to be a member of TWC community.

I'm just confused about this thread appearing to be some rallying cry against great injustice CA committed against us. It isn't.

**~~Antiochus~~** · June 19, 2013, 04:23 AM

Oldboy, units cards is the thing which you see in all battles. It schould be good looking. Black, ugly units are similar. All hoplites or phalangites probably will be very similar. The sam thing about archers, slingers etc.

**August** · June 19, 2013, 04:32 AM

All hoplites or phalangites probably will be very similar.

You don't know. And you admit it. Need I say more?

Your argument hinges on aesthetics alone. Aesthetics of that you have not yet seen. This is a hollow discussion.

**~~Antiochus~~** · June 21, 2013, 03:14 AM

I completely agree with you. +rep.
We will look at units cards non-stop in the game, but it is ugly, not historical and not various.

**Igor85** · June 21, 2013, 04:01 AM

Well, the poll says the majoritiy thinks different. Only 32% want them to be changed.

**Kahvipannu** · June 21, 2013, 04:47 AM

So... Wait for the game to come out and make a mod? Everything is all sunny again, I don't see the reason of this thread, it is about "Yes, I don't like them, they are ugly, do you guys agree?", which really is subjective and leads nowhere. It is since OP is just a list of things you don't like about the pictures. Or discussion should they be changed or not, clearly some like them, others don't, but they will propably stay, nothing propably will change that at this point of development.

If you could atleast change the OP to something like:"What kind of unitcards you would like to see?", proposal thread, brain-storm, a project, not a complain thread you know? Something usefull to make it happen once the game goes out. If there is such, I didn't see any due to the fact it gets burried people either agreeing or disagreeing with OPs post...

I don't know, Isn't modding supposed to be about getting exited about things to change them? Getting enthusiast talk "Ok guys, what can/want we do with these unit-cards?", not complaining about stuff, but modifyeing it. You don't need reasons to do that, you do it to give people options, and when it comes down to subjective things one would pressume everybody would honor others work/opinion, and this applies to CAs work too.

Personally I think I will like them, it is hard to say without playing the game for awhile, so I will leave my judgement until then.

**Beorix** · June 23, 2013, 05:33 AM

Personally, i dont like them. I would prefer a NTW style ,more "realist" style.
But i expect some mods (if the game is moddable) will correct that feature.
I hope the creators of RS2 will work on this title,and make it as good as they made for RTW.

**Legion_IX** · June 23, 2013, 05:59 AM

Let's face it people. CA won't change these horrible unit cards. Not because they like them so much and think they are historically accurate or they don't listen to the community. Actually the reaction in Q&A after E3 show to us, that they know and realize the huge disappointment by lots of fans. I'm pretty sure that CA (at least relatively to some other companies) listen to their community and would change it. The problem here is the collectors edition, it includes cards with this misplaced unit cards. At this very late stadium where the orders with suppliers are likely done, so even if they would like to change them, they simply cannot do it now. Sad, very sad. Especially when you see that the general traits for example are done in the "canonic" (and for me personally much better looking) mosaic style.

**JOZI** · June 23, 2013, 06:04 AM

Frankly sir, I don't give a damn.

That is all.

**~~Antiochus~~** · June 27, 2013, 05:10 AM

Excellent evidence

Originally Posted by King Louise Assurbanipal

Originally Posted by CraigTW

Q: Are you going to change the unit cards?

No, we have no plans to change the unit cards. When you’re hands-on in battle, we find the new card design to be particularly useful for identifying which unit is which in the heat of battle. You should reserve judgement on their effectiveness until you’d had an opportunity to use them. Needless to say, in the thousands of hours of testing so far they have proven their worth.

We like them a lot as their style is in period for our game and the Romans were rather fond of mimicking the art of other cultures, including Greece.

This is not true.
Art in period for Rome 2 was a lot more advanced. Your units cards are inspired by the archaic Greek art (black-figure pottery). It was especially common between the 7th and 5th centuries BC.
Red-figure vase painting developed in Athens around 520 BC and remained in use until the late 3rd century BC. It replaced the previously dominant style of Black-figure vase painting within a few decades.
At the same time in Italy was painting in color.
During the game Greek painting was extremely realistic (color images, the prospect of a three-dimensional, realistic body proportions).
Roman paintingwas very realistic. It was a legacy of the Hellenistic era. Very well known three-dimensional perspective. Human figures were made with great precision. The ancient Romans were able to paint people in realistic proportions and colors.

Black-figure pottery: