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Libertus
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
I like them... *hides from volley of arrows*
Helfen, Wehren, Heilen
Senator
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
volley of arrows? looks like TWC is calm today, usually it are rocks from catapults,or worse..............Originally Posted by The Teutonic
Praeses
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
They look awesome. I forget Carthage are going to have so many different units.didnt notice until now that those are iberian infantry with falcatas lol
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
Am7, your units cards aren't perfectly, but it is better than CA's units cards which they swhowed in Teutoburg Forrest.
I prefer your way. Please, try to correct it and it will be great.
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
Could not care less about the unit cards.
why allways complain about the small things that are in no way important?
Domesticus
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
In all the art pieces they could have used like ceramic, paintings, etc. They use ugly stick figures. Why exactly? They are not even a represantative of this area and era.
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards could be change
I don't believe that CA didn't change these ugly and unhistorical units cards.
Egyptian Ramzete units in Greek archaic style from 8th-6th century BC? I don't believe...
These units cards should be change. In 3rd-1st BC painting art was: colorful, realistic (3d structure). Please, don't ignore fans and history...
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
I think they did a great job with unit cards, tbh.
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Why? Could you give me reason? These cards aren't from period of Rome 2. It is the same example if in Napoleon TW will be units cards in style of late medieval ages...
Archaic age is primitive art, not proporcial. In the time of Rome 2 Hellenistic and Roman art = realism, 3d structure, completely colored.
Mowbray of Nottingham
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Archaic art is a lot more iconic than what was actually used by the Romans in this time period. That's why. And it also is a very nice looking style.
MODDER SINCE 2005
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Maybe for you. For me is a lot more iconic Hellenistic / Roman style. From that art began Renaissance art after medieval.
But units cards by CA isn't completely Greek ceramic art, too.
Oiginal archaic Greece (probably CA think that they made it but no...)
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Classical Greece (much better and a lot more iconic than archaic Greece and better for units cards):
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Roman art, especially Pompei (this art knows by everybody):
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Mowbray of Nottingham
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
I'd say it's the most iconic for most people, that and the classical Greece.Maybe for you. For me is a lot more iconic Hellenistic / Roman style. From that art began Renaissance art after medieval.
But units cards by CA isn't completely Greek ceramic art, too.
Oiginal archaic Greece (probably CA think that they made it but no...)
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Classical Greece (much better and a lot more iconic than archaic Greece and better for units cards):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Roman art, especially Pompei (this art knows by everybody):
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Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
I think the main reason is not that it is not historically correct but that they simply do not look good. But of course they wont change it. The game is in beta, the pre-alpa stuff is just marketing, like BF4 being presented like a pre-alpha when obviously the game is pretty much finished already. Nothing will change in Rome 2 at all. They will simply polish and bug fix, thats the reality. We can only hope that someone makes some better ones as a mod.
Miles
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Yeah pretty much this.This is my biggest fear and you know what.That doesn't make any sense but what the heck the same thing was with many other games where devs made some really (at least) weird decisions.Like cutting of some features which would be welcomed by all players : casuals and hardcore alike.
You know that moment when reporter from gamespot who clearly has no clue about total war and is btw the giant foot fetisher (Elephant lover) and he tells you once he saw your product meh and isn't capture point a little to much gamy or in another words dumbing down or in this case unsuccessful improvement of battle variety.IMO this should turn on the red lights in CA headquarters.CA with all due respect your biggest mistake was that this game shouldn't be compared with Shogun 2 at all like you do all the time.When it comes to graphics - yes but when it comes to map size,gameplay and other stuff it should be rome tw with excellent graphics, more cool features and more options.If you are afraid that it would repel new gamers than why don't make insted different mods of the same game. Like if you want to please history accurate guys than make mod and call it Historical or siege mod in which all regions would be siegeable.Thus those who would like to play more sieges will get what they want and those who don't well, they simply will play mod with less sieges. It could be done similary for army cap and other unwelcommed changes for some folk. It's all about listening to your audience. LISTEN TO THEM. AND YOU WON'T SWIM IN MONEY, YOU WIILL DROWN IN IT.
Senator
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Aaaaaaand thanks for bumping your own thread... again.
Senator
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
they really need to change unit cards :S whem first see them, i thougt it would be better later, but it isnt :S
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
this forum is sometimes so ridiculous its unbelievable...I do not write much, long time only reader to this forum, later have registered, but I simply cant stand people whining about stuff like theme of this topic...also remembered well that with quality of games rises, so much more whining about unrelevant stuff simply explodes...
preety much similar stuff like on 2k13 NBA forum...people whine about chairs where substitutes sit, or colours on snickers on players dont match real life...
ppl get real, pls
Protector Domesticus
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
I dont care whether they are realistic or not. I just don't like them and wouldn't want to see them even if they were realistic.
First thing I'll look for is a unit card mod similar to the one that color coordinated the units on their type.
EDIT - Dont take that as me boycotting the game over something so small and pathetic. Mods I see as a way to personalise our experience and that is what I intend to do.
We Came, We Saw, We Ran Away!
Ducenarius
Re: Few reasons why Units Cards should be change (that Greek archaic ceramic art isn't from time of Rome 2. In time of Rome 2 paintings was colorful and realistic)
Unit card mod! Unit card mod Unit card moooddd!!!
This is not an irrelevant topic, the current unit cards are fracking hideous and a SCAR on the otherwise gorgeous campaign/battle UI. I've liked all the highly-detailed and COLORFUL UI cards up to date. These lack 1. detail and 2. color. Considering that the art here is based on CERAMIC art of the WRONG time period which was made by poor rascal artisans who probably WOULD have used more color IF they could afford the expensive glazes and dyes (and consider, the ancient Greeks and Romans tried to add color and detail to everything if they could - they painted their STATUES (and so were the ancient terracotta warriors of the Qin Emperor) - this is nothing short of a travesty. A faux pas.
This:
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Similar to THESE, much?
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Spindly oddly misshapen legs. I'm talking about the contorted, lumpy legs on the all-black Rorshach ink blots that CA is calling "legionaries" in those unit cards. But THESE "antz" have more color.
And considering all-black lumpy crude drawings of 7-year-old level artistry skill, THESE have about the same level of detail. Just add a couple of red rectangles for shields and keep the stark white backgrounds. At least the playing cards coming with the Collector's Edition I ordered will have terra cotta or stucco, more "antique" yellowed background colors. These probably kept the Red 0 Green 0 Blue 0 or the 96 white computer paper - whiteness backgrounds they were created on. For crying out loud, all it takes is the Bucket tool in MS Paint and some of the brown/yellow color like on THIS Total War Center Forums to take away the eye-eating glare and contrast of those Unnaturally White and Black cards.
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If things go ahead like this, I may be INCENSED enough to simply create a unit card mod of my own parodying those ghastly unit cards and replace them all with ants. Literal lasius niger Black Garden Ant artwork scrawled by someone not particularly gifted in art like myself. This is a serious threat!
THERE! Took 15 minutes of my time! (Should have taken one only 5-10 minutes but I'm not artistically gifted - remember?) Now off to a full day of school/work I go.
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Now the juxtaposition:
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I left one of the original "inspirations" for my own tentative Black Ant unit card, on gratuitous 0 Red 0 Green 0 Blue, Stark White background for comparison. Betcha couldn't pick 'em out upon initial glance.
Upon second appraisal, I forgot the distinctive antennae. For now I'm almost late for school/work and we can just assume like good Roman Ants these Legionaries tucked their antennae into their crested helmets.
I wish you fun playing of Total War: Black Ants!
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