Why Both Epirus and Macedon are controlling Larissa at start?

**Sherm** · May 09, 2013, 09:11 AM

There is something wrong here, what is the reason?

Bad times for the macedons sorruned by these greeks, but now they steal also the starting regions?
Maybe they give Larissa to Epirus to rapresent the presence of Greek leagues here? however personally i don't want a too weak Macedon Kingdom.

**Jack Lusted** · May 09, 2013, 09:12 AM

The Macedon map is a little out of date now, some of the region ownerships have changed. Larissa is now owned by Epirus in our current start pos.

**Sherm** · May 09, 2013, 09:17 AM

Thank for the answer Jack
There will be an updated map of the Macedon startpos?

**Kinjo** · May 09, 2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Lusted

The Macedon map is a little out of date now, some of the region ownerships have changed. Larissa is now owned by Epirus in our current start pos.

Any way we can get the start pos in a text file for casual modders?

**Zipzopdippidybopbop** · May 09, 2013, 09:12 AM

Where did you get the bottom image?

And nah, it might mean that "half" of the region is Makedonian, whilst the other half is Epeirote (I think a province is divided into 3 or 4 subregions or something).

Update: There you go

**♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠** · May 09, 2013, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Miles Invictus

Where did you get the bottom image?

And nah, it might mean that "half" of the region is Makedonian, whilst the other half is Epeirote (I think a province is divided into 3 or 4 subregions or something).

Update: There you go

It seems you STILL don't understand the regions and provinces feature.
Each one of those places is a region. Just like every other TW game. The big word (often diagonal) is the province, made up of those regions.
In those pictures you can see Makedonia and Hellas(Greece) as the two big provinces. The map is perhaps not as good as you think it is mate

**Grimbold** · May 09, 2013, 09:12 AM

A thread already exists with the same question and CA has already answered it.

Macedon's initial holdings have changed, so it's actually Epirus that will be controlling Larissa.

**Sun Jetzu** · May 09, 2013, 07:51 PM

the greek map better be bigger than that! I better be able to scroll all the way in to control an army lol

**Sun Jetzu** · May 09, 2013, 08:04 PM

they probably changed it and havnt changed the artwork, unless they both share it...or maybe it"ll be random, one games its macedons and the other its epirus's? lol

**AngryTitusPullo** · May 09, 2013, 09:51 PM

Probably they wont change the artwork to represent the fact that the ancient maps were not accurate.

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · May 10, 2013, 02:06 AM

What part of "This is an artistic map and not representative of actual gameplay" do people not understand?

**Aelita** · May 10, 2013, 02:09 AM

If you look at the Macedon page now they fixed it, although it looks like they just got robbed of a territory, i was hoping they would be given another one further north, oh well just makes them eassyer to conquer with my Athenian armies

**Boicote** · May 10, 2013, 12:38 PM

According to geacron.com (http://geacron.com/home-en/), Larissa was in control of Macedonia in 270 BC:

**PietroMicca** · May 10, 2013, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boicote

According to geacron.com (http://geacron.com/home-en/), Larissa was in control of Macedonia in 270 BC:

Just remember that campaign starts in 264 BC

**Boicote** · May 10, 2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by PietroMicca

Just remember that campaign starts in 264 BC

The map is almost identical in 270 BC and in 264 BC. See for yourself:
http://geacron.com/en/?v=m&lang=en&z...rp=0&re=0&nv=2

In 264 BC Larissa was still in control of Macedonia.

**Mausolos of Caria** · May 10, 2013, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by PietroMicca

Just remember that campaign starts in 264 BC

I'm pretty sure it didn't change, the following map also confirms it:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

But that artistical representation is inaccurate in many points. I hope the campaign map will be different and more detailed.

**bengalg3** · May 10, 2013, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boicote

According to geacron.com (http://geacron.com/home-en/), Larissa was in control of Macedonia in 270 BC:

Wow, it's going to be fun taking over Europe, Med with little Sparta. XD

**Vytautas** · May 10, 2013, 03:01 PM

Hardly important since Sparta seems to have full control of pelo in the game campaign maps, game map is hideous. Tis empire all over again.

**Dan113112** · May 10, 2013, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Vytautas

Hardly important since Sparta seems to have full control of pelo in the game campaign maps, game map is hideous. Tis empire all over again.

Hardly. 183 regions in 57 provinces. The map is bigger than any vanilla TW map so far in both size and the amount of regions. Even ETW had a ton of regions. They just weren't all in Europe. They did have North and South America, India, the Middle East, and Europe after all. NTW had the least regions. CA said they'd take some liberties with the map for gameplay reasons.

Originally Posted by Anna_Gein

The map is just not enough detailed. Once again CA lacked of focus. 4 regions in Cyrenaica. Full map of Arabia. Sigh

It's quite a sticky situation. If they focused too much on a small portion of the map people would complain about the map not being big enough. If they focus on a larger part of the world like they are doing in TWR2 they'd have people complaining about that like you are now. No offence intended of course.