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    Hi all ,

    I played Medieval Totalwar 2 in Leipzig for several hours.
    There were 2 types of Demos, the first was Tutorial ( kinda similar to Rome) and two Battles , (Agincourt and Pavia ) and a Overview Trailer aswell.

    ----- To the Battles -----

    Before the battle there were some beautiful intro for every scenario were you see the troops marching to the battlefield and the landscape details are impressive.

    The Demo Battles were very very easy to win and i have to say the combat is pretty fast , even infantry combat.
    The battle details aren't that beautiful like we all wished them. If a soldier gets a hit he suddenly gets a bloody color all over his body, the second hit is his death. The varity of special combat moves were pretty low sadly.
    The AI , especially the French horsemen troops in Agincourt were totally braindead.. once they attacked the bowmen and killed some they didnt react any longer.. no attacks on other troops .. nothing ... they were easy kills for other archers. I think the AI was heavily scripted in the demo.
    Corpses are stacking and this time you see weapons other things on the ground when the soldiers die.


    The second Demo was a Campaign Mode where the Sega guys showed some new aspects of the Game , like the Assassin Videos, the Diplomatic Mode , the New World and a Siege Battle in Arabia.

    For the most time i watched the sega guy playing because there weren't allowed to let someone otherwise play the campaign mode but in the end we played a bit together. Reason?
    The game is finished up to 70% and they were only able to show some things that work , all other things crashed Medieval 2 :p

    We played a Battle in Arabia and i have to say the walls are pretty strong now for catapults fire and the details on a hit are great and the cities are very large. We didn't finished the battle tho..
    He played around a bit and moved spies and princess around and showed the "New World" (Its a small part on the map , left to the main map (very small )
    To the end we moved the English army to Scotland and the battle was like 2900 against 2600.
    The scenario was a full forest map and it was winter.
    There was no lag at all but after some minutes Medieval crashed again because some things aren't finished yet

    To the Campaign map

    - The terrain so much greater than Rome .. so many little details and sweet landscape
    - The French KI was pretty agressive on the campaign map but we both wondered about the diplomatics.
    French was allied with us and suddenly they attacked and conquered Caen.
    - 21 different Nations
    - 250 Units
    - Missions were kinda similar to Rome
    - There Speeching in Campaign and Battles seems almost twiced.
    Can be good but also bad after a while.


    Something to add for Mulitplayer

    There seems nothing new yet to Multiplayer
    Menu was the same like Rome and there is no MP campaign.
    The Sega guy said they want to do it and plan it for the addon. (well how often we heared that)


    ----------------------------
    I dont like the fast battles somehow, but the game is 70% and will be released in November 2006
    The Demo is planned for October and will be the one with Tutorial and the two battles from GC for sure.

    But some happy thing for the Total Realism creators.
    Mark Sutherns , Marketing Manager from Creative Assembly said for him personally Total Realism is very impressive but impossible to do it by themselves because its pointed to hardcore players and CA wants to reach all types of players but it's are great work that you did and he hopes that the fans of Medieval 2 will do something for this game aswell. (He can't wait!!)


    That was my little report
    Sorry if you don't understand everything
    It's late here and my mother language is german

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    Can't wait.

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    Not a stellar report on the AI. I hope the AI was bad *because* of the scripting.

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    The Campaign sounds awesome but the AI and Battles Worry Me. Time to fix it though.
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    dude sweet, how did you get a chance to play it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 753
    ...The game is finished up to 70% and they were only able to show some things that work , all other things crashed Medieval 2 :p...
    If the game is going to be released around Novemeber of this year, how can it only be 70% done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathal
    If the game is going to be released around Novemeber of this year, how can it only be 70% done?
    who has said the game will be released when it is at 100%? :tooth:

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    i wish in those 30% that still remains... (you said 70% of game is finished) ... well i hope they will improve AI and strategy ... i dont want to see anemy generals killed in first 5 minutes of battle.... i dont want to see him crash into my phalangs =)
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    Default Re: I played it today at GC Leipzig

    Thanks 753 for your report. The battle AI sounds disappointing but the game being 70% done leaves a lot of room for improvement so I hope CA can fix that part. October is still far away so I'm hoping the demo will be much more improved by then.

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    d@mn, thats probably the worst ive heard about the game
    **** fast battles

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    Last edited by Lusted; August 25, 2006 at 05:55 PM.

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    So the Ca guys can't wait for the modders here to make their game in the way it should be made, witch they can't do themselves (for comercial reasons)

    Hmm, this might mean that they are hardcoding as little as possible, in order for the game fixers to make the game great. Faction mod limit 30? AI and diplomacy moddable? Who knows, but hope is light (to quote some movie charachter). Anyway, AI doesn't bother me yet, as it was probably made for the demo (BTW, what happened at Agincourt is debatable, but judging by troop sizes in that battle, massively in favour of the French , a completely dumb AI actually sounds pretty historically accurate).
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    Didn't i say that the battle animations was bad? i knew it ... it was pretty fast and non-realstic
    And... Full of glitches ><"

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    So the ai hasnt been improved?

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    that all sounds awefull

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    Quote Originally Posted by 753
    - 21 different Nations
    Do you know which are the 21 factions? Have any of the official ones been replaced?


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    Fast battles? Not a good sign... Judging you said at Agincourt that they just attacked one group of bowmen and stop moving, hopefully it just means everything so far is scripted and the AI is the last 30%.

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    Thanks for the review. I will reserve judgement on the "fast" battles until i myself have played the demo. The AI is never going to be brilliant in the demo - they do have a fair few months to correct and hone the system. I'm still looking forward to the game and can't wait for the demo.

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    Default Re: I played it today at GC Leipzig

    ARGH.
    FAST BATTLES...
    NO...
    BAD AI....
    No.....

    Anyway, I thought the creators had 1000 new animations or something like that. Maybe they will incorporate them in the 30% thats left.
    Last edited by The Lord Of Dance; August 25, 2006 at 06:02 PM.

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    Good post, those 30 % must be minor issues..

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    so the ai will be like rome total war?

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