Princess Models & Accents

[0TheLastTemplar0]

Playing my latest campaign, I noticed the horrible princess glitch for the Makourian, Arab and Hindu factions. Their princesses appear to be a pink colored man in a toga...? I don't know if the Kypchaks have a similar issue. Also I think something has to be done about the accents for the Hindu and Makourian factions. Well I am not here to complain, I'm more interested in offering some solutions. BC team, if you would like I can model and texture some princess models for the said factions and I can do some voice acting for the Makourians and Hindus - IF you guys are not addressing these things already. My Indian accent is pretty believable lol, but I think my African one might need some work. I think these kinds of fixes will make the mod more authentic. If this is something you guys don't want to address right now or are not interested in, I understand, maybe I will try to mod them in for my own personal use.

[rummtata]

I doubt that it is a priority for the official release, but you can always submod =) I've been wanting proper stratmap princesses for all BC factions ever since I started my portrait project and had to realize it's not that easy to do if you can't take care of both 3d and 2d, and in the best case also the voice acting.

Back then, I could only mod images, so no way. But in the meantime I've learned how to skin models and have someone to take care of the 3d part, so if you don't do it, I'll do it later ;-) Anyway, I have been referred to this mod:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...s-amp-Download!

That one features a very basic oriental princess model and even more basic textures, which could be improved considerably. I think it also just uses vanilla voices. Sadly, this seems to be the best TWC has to offer for now. I am really too caught up in other things atm, so I'd be very interested to see what results you can produce. What I can still offer is at least some help with the textures, if that is not your main area of expertize, and of course with the portraits.

The voices would have been a problem for me. If you can provide any, I'm sure I wont be the only one to be grateful =)

[0TheLastTemplar0]

@Rummtata

Thanks very much for the offer. I would very much like to work with you. I actually just went through your 2d work, it's rather top-rate . I also looked through islamic princesses in the mod you posted, yeah your right they look like reskins of vanilla ones. Don't worry I'll create some models. I don't think I will have a problem creating the Hindu and Islamic ones, but what do you think a Makurian princess might look like? Anyways, I'll model and make some basic textures, perhaps you can improve them and create the unit cards when you have time? How can I communicate with you? P/M's, e-mails?

[k/t]

"My Indian accent is pretty believable lol"

Is it an Apu impersonation?

Maybe we can get actual Indians to say things.

Is there such a thing as a "typical" African accent? Is it going to be an impersonation of that guy from "Lord Of War"?

See if the Xenophonia mod doesn't have anything you could use.

[0TheLastTemplar0]

k/t,

I am actually South Asian, so the Indian accent is something that comes natural to me So I can do the voice acting for that no problem. I haven't really checked out Xenophonia, I thought that mod was dead? They had some releases? Regarding the African accent, I briefly reviewed the Aztecs last night and I think their accent can somewhat pass for an African one. References to the "Sun God" of course need to be eliminated, but the Aztec accent can be a possible solution. But making a whole new accent from scratch for the Makurians will be the biggest challenge. Anyhow, maybe I will begin work on the Indian accent asap.

[k/t]

Come to think of it, how come Muslim and Indian factions have princesses in your game? I thought only the Orthodox factions and maybe KOJ had them.

[rummtata]

Hey templar, pooling resources is always a good idea. A substantial KOJ overhaul would certainly make for a better submod than separate releases of similiar projects. What we should try to keep separate however is superficial changes (visuals, audio) and gameplay changes (new units, new buildings, new scripts, stat changes...).

I can take care of:

- portraits
- loading screens
- user interface
- unit info pics
- building info pics
- unit cards
- building cards
- textures
- banners
- stratmap icons

I haven't done any audio modding, so it's good if you already know how to do that. KOJ is certainly not on the receiving end of BC's overall quality distribution when it comes to music. What I miss the most are beautiful, but unobtrusive vocal tracks (gregorian style) for the stratmap, maybe you could add something like that? I don't know if there is a limit for the campaign music tracks, but I'm sure we can add a lot more than are currently in use.

We can communicate here via PM, and if we decide to go forward with this, we should create a thread in the submods forum where we can discuss what we want to add/change, provide previews and invite more people to join in, if anyone is interested. Do you use Skype or a messenger with a compatible protocol? You'll find me as ' rummtata85 '.

It's good to have an alternative way of communicating because TWC has been very unstable for several months now and you never know when the forum is offline or dysfunctional.

[0TheLastTemplar0]

Great, when do you want to get started? I am available right now. I'll get skype and PM you when I do...? I'll start a new thread on sub-mods. Before I start that though, I'll get this project authorized with the BC team.

""What I miss the most are beautiful, but unobtrusive vocal tracks (gregorian style) for the stratmap""

Don't worry I found a bunch of these on the internet and I have already implemented them. Some beautiful old Roman and Templar chants.

[k/t]

Links?

[0TheLastTemplar0]

Links?

Salve Regina:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_2x6JmuaE

Da Pacem Domine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0d4qM7gCH8

Terra Tremuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdka1WN1c8c

For use with the game, I've obviously edited them and cut them down in length considerably.....basically I kept the best bits of these songs.

[rummtata]

Sure, just give word. It's really hard to predict when I have time for modding, but I try to at least look for news on a more or less daily basis ;-)

[0TheLastTemplar0]

I just started the thread on sub-mods. My Skype ID is temp_nofear.