The Army of Northern Virginia (CSA planning thread)

[Pontifex Maximus]

Commander:
General Robert E. Lee

Adjutants:
Brigadier General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard
Brigadier General James Longstreet
Brigadier General JEB Stuart

Units (These units MUST be paid for. Registered units have priority):

24th Georgia Volunteers Regiment - John Higgins (2nd Company commander), Captain Cullen Washburne (8th Company Commander),
18th North Carolina Volunteer Infantry Regiment - Luetenant Colonel Isaiah Bernard Sessler (CO)
1st Virginia Cavalry "Mosby's Rangers" - Colonel Mosby (CO)


[ALL CSA PLAYERS WILL DISCUSS ADDITIONAL RECRUITMENT, final decision by overall commander.]

The CSA has $450,000 and 4,556 industrial points to spend on this army per year. Find recruitment information in the rules thread. Note that this army had 20,000 men at First Bull Run. I believe these resource allotments should get us somewhere near that number, so it is subject to change.

Starting Resources:

$1,350,000 per week in taxes
27,000 industrial points

[Pontifex Maximus]

I thought we had more lower tier officers? If not, people should create some and stick them in our already existing company/regiment. It would be fun to RP the macro army movements as well as a more individual regimental roles.

[Jokern]

I propose we buy 8 000 rifles and 1 000 12 lb cannons.

[Pontifex Maximus]

That's going to be a negative

I think starting with under 15k infantry would be a mistake

[Jokern]

Alright, then I suggest we recruit:

130 companies of infantry (recruitment 650 000$)

15 companies of cavalry (recruitment 112 500$)

200 batteries of 12 lb artillery (recruitment 500 000$)


Counting in the companies we already have, we'd have:

150 companies of infantry

25 companies of cavalry

200 batteries of 12 lb artillery

About 20 000 men.

The cost of this would be 1 345 000$ and 19 100 IP​, this includes the purchase of rifles, carbines and cannons.

The upkeep cost would be 475 000$.

[Pontifex Maximus]

I'm not going to be able to sit down and look at this in detail for another day, so keep the suggestions rolling

[Dave Strider]

Joker, that's way too high a Cannon:Soldier ratio. Even armies in the ACW that reached over 130,000 only had 600-700 guns.

I propose:

180 companies of Infantry (not counting the 24th GA or 18th NC)
30 companies of Cavalry (not counting the 1st VA)
10 batteries of 12-lb Artillery

[The Stig]

I propose:

180 companies of Infantry (not counting the 24th GA or 18th NC)
30 companies of Cavalry (not counting the 1st VA)
10 batteries of 12-lb Artillery

200 Infantry Companies: $1000000 to recruit. Upkeep is $300000.
40 Companies of Cavalry: $300000 to recruit. Upkeep is $80000
10 Batteries of 12-lb Artillery: $25000 to recruit. Upkeep is $10000.

Total: $1325000 to recruit. Upkeep is $390000.

We would need 18,000 rifles, 3,000 carbines and 40 cannons

18000 Rifles: 20000 industrial points. $100000.
3000 Carbines: 4000 industrial points. $20000.
40 12-lb Cannons: 80 industrial points. $600.

Total: 24080 industrial points. $120600.


Combined, the men and material will cost $1445600 and 24080 industrial points to purchase. Upkeep will be $390000 per year. Adding a full complement of 223 supply wagons, as Kip recomended, would cost 2230 additional industrial points. As far as I can tell, we can afford it, if only just.

[Dave Strider]

182 Infantry Companies: $910000 to recruit. Upkeep is $273000.
31 Companies of Cavalry: $232500 to recruit. Upkeep is $62000
10 Batteries of 12-lb Artillery: $25000 to recruit. Upkeep is $10000.

Total: $1167500 to recruit. Upkeep is $345000.




18000 Rifles: 18000 industrial points. $90000.
3000 Carbines: 3000 industrial points. $15000.
40 12-lb Cannons: 80 industrial points. $600.

Total: 21080 industrial points. $105600.


Combined, the men and material will cost $127310 and 21080 industrial points to purchase. Upkeep will be $345000 per year. Adding a full complement of 223 supply wagons, as Kip recomended, would cost 2230 additional industrial points. As far as I can tell, we can afford it.

It would be 200 companies and 40 squadrons, counting the units we have. A Regiment is 10 companies.

[Jokern]

200 Infantry Companies: $1000000 to recruit. Upkeep is $300000.
40 Companies of Cavalry: $300000 to recruit. Upkeep is $80000
10 Batteries of 12-lb Artillery: $25000 to recruit. Upkeep is $10000.

Total: $1325000 to recruit. Upkeep is $390000.



18000 Rifles: 20000 industrial points. $100000.
3000 Carbines: 4000 industrial points. $20000.
40 12-lb Cannons: 80 industrial points. $600.

Total: 24080 industrial points. $120600.


Combined, the men and material will cost $1445600 and 24080 industrial points to purchase. Upkeep will be $390000 per year. Adding a full complement of 223 supply wagons, as Kip recomended, would cost 2230 additional industrial points. As far as I can tell, we can afford it, if only just.

Wouldn'tnthis break our current budget, at least on the money side?

[Pontifex Maximus]

That's a sensible arrangement.

We would need 18,000 rifles, 3,000 carbines and 40 cannons

Can someone determine the cost and upkeep of that force?

[Kip]

I recommend we get a decent (if not full) complement of supply trains too. Can we capture enemy supply trains following a victory?

[Pontifex Maximus]

I recommend we get a decent (if not full) complement of supply trains too. Can we capture enemy supply trains following a victory?

Supposing they have any, yeah

[Dave Strider]

Oh yes, supply trains, definitely.

[Kip]

In that case, if its cost-prohibitive, we can always gamble that we'll pick up any extra wagons we need if its preferable to spend those points on weapons or men

EDIT: Though as suggested earlier, we should probably start with at least a decent train

[The Stig]

Edited

[Pontifex Maximus]

We'll have a payday about five days after the start. I will allow either side to go a little in debt...but not much. We could scale back cavalry recruitment and be fine. Cavalry isn't all too important.

[Dave Strider]

Yeah. Maybe only 20 squadrons of cav total instead of 40? Or make some 5-squadron regiments?

[Gone 2 the Celts]

The last thing we want to do is go in debt, period. I personally would rather invest in cannons than horses, seeing as we will have a major confrontation soon. After the battle and our next payday, we can increase our number of cavalry regiments so that we can adept to skirmishes and minor battles, mixed in with the occasional large fight. I will be away this weekend, but I will make a personal plan to disperse supplies correctly and efficiently when I get back.

[The Stig]

I would agree with that. Cavalry will be useful if we enter Union territory, but if we stay on defense, as I believe we should, then artillery will be nearly invaluble.