Armored Hoplite skins(recomendations?)

**A$TAR-519** · August 24, 2006, 03:31 PM

Hello guys I havent been here for a while and decided to reinstall TW, to make it short, I'm looking for armored Hoplite skins. Not so much different from the default ones, but just some minor tweaks here and there, if possible are their any1's with green or blue crestes that would be great, thank you for your hard work if you decide to share some with me. good day.. (^_^)

**Trajan** · August 25, 2006, 06:51 AM

Moved to Skins, Objects and Animations.

**Frost** · August 26, 2006, 11:21 AM

You should check this thread...
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54958
...maybe they come close to the ones you are looking for... :hmmm:
especially the thracian hoplite is great!

**Agathon** · November 02, 2006, 01:17 AM

Those are Webbird's last Greek units from August. Probably the best hoplite skins (along with Hades) that I've tried in my personal copy of XGM. It's a very well organized download and practically smooth for installation of the skins, but there are a few caveats that I've found and should mention to you.

If you're like me, you might expect the UI-unit_info pics displayed in the thread to match the UI's in the download, but the Greek Cities units in the download will prove rather a disappointment in this regard ...

[1] From the thread, the Greek_Cities' "hoplite spear" should be a unit with the "Athenian" trident insignia. It’s the kind of hoplite I would have used as an elite/armoured greek_cities phalangist. Unfortunately, in the download, it isn't. Instead you get an armoured Spartan with a bronze "Lambda" hoplon. Moreover, the larger unit_info card in the download shows the same Spartan hoplite (absent from the thread's illustration), but the small unit card shows the actual "Athenian" spear that I was expecting from the thread.

Possible Solution: The extras folder in the Download contains a number of compatible skins. Granted, the armoured hoplite that I found there for the Greeks strongly resembles the "Macedonian hoplite spear" from the Macedon folder in the download, but using the Macedonian hoplite spear UI cards for the "extras" Greek armoured hoplite looks clean enough to match the tactical texture and practically avoids the problem of having unit cards with two different shields (Spartan and Athenian).

[2] The Greek_Cities agrianos sword skirmisher with the attractive and well designed "supper plate" shield in the thread is missing from the zip, and short of contacting Webbird, (who well may have moved on to other matters), I don't see a remedy for it. (Ironically, Webbird's Pezhetairo (Pezoi Hetairoi) and agrianos skins would make perfect Spartan Pylos hoplites for those purists who prefer a Spartan lineman who isn't hidden behind what may be an achronistic bronze Corinthian helmet and about 70 lbs. of cumbersome bronze cuirass. It also lacks the normally ubiquitous lambda shield).

[3] Webbird’s “Tanks” or Royal Guards as represented in the thread are not as numerous and therefore not as varied as they appear in the download. As with the hoplite spears, the Spartan tank with the Lambda hoplon is present, but the Athenian tank is not. Similarly only the “Larissa” tank is present for the Macedonians. The “Pella” tank isn’t there. Still, these are admittedly more skins for Royal Guard or Sacred Band type elite units, many of which would not normally appear as the staple infantry in the normal army detachment of any Greek or Semi-Greek (read Thrace) faction. (Btw, I’ve used the WBB Spartan tank to replace the Spartan Phalanigist in my personal copy XGM, although I have not used his other tanks for Macedon and the Seleucids).

Despite the caveats aforementioned, I've found these units to be very clean, sensitive designs, that I heartily recommend for their ease of use and aesthetic appeal. I only wish there were more (or at best, the skins pictured in the thread but missing from the download).

**A$TAR-519** · November 07, 2006, 02:10 PM

hey thanks a lot every1, especially Agathon for his suggestions, took 4 month for a new reply, o well, thanks for the help, and please close this topic if no1's going to post any new suggestions, thanks a lot !