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    Default Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    So I've always been curious about why they added this character (other than the obvious use of her for sex scenes) and come up with a theory. I think that she will be used in place of Jeyne Poole once we get to the ADWDs part of the series. Obviously she can't be playing the part of Arya for Ramsay but she is a red head and northern so perhaps they would be trying to pass her off as Sansa?

    My main support for this theory is why else would they give her so much character interaction with Theon in season 1? Also her appearance and the fact she is in Littlefinger's service. Also they never introduced a Jeyne Poole at all throughout the show. The main problem i would have is obviously Cersei accuses Sansa of Joff's murder. Plus she would technically be married to Tyrion by this point in time so dunno how they would get fake Sansa out of all these issues in order to give her away to Ramsay Snow. Also many more northerners would recognize she wasn't the real Sansa. So I think it could go either way but her interactions with Theon had to have been included for a reason and they must have added her for a reason.

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    Default Re: Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    The theory sounds plausible but Ross in the show is way too old to even pretend she's Sansa, its possible but I would find it incredibly unrealistic if they would do it.

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    Every now and then a good theory pops up but this is not one of them.
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    I dont see how this is a bad theory.

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    As Louis says, Ros is too old, and too well known in Winterfell for anyone to be taken in. Her hair is the wrong colour completely. And I don't think they'll have her pretending to be Sansa, because that's a massive deviation from the story line of the books, when we don't know where that story line is going (I appreciate the directors do to some extent). I reckon they'll just introduce a "Jayne" later on: quite easy to say "you there, you grew up in the castle with the Starks, you'll do" to any random character.

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    No, I think it's something bigger for her. Let's not forget she is in Vary's service, not Littlefinger's.

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    She's there as to not waste time as was between the millions of prostitute characters in the books.
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    I would find it unrealistic as well but that doesn't mean they still won't do it. They've already shown their propensity for combining a number of characters into one. Also she IS still in Littlefinger's service, she's just secretly spying on him for Varys. I could see Littlefinger finding out about her betrayal and pawning her off. I agree that there are a lot of problems with pulling her off in the North. But in the books it seemed like most of the nobles knew that wasn't Arya, but were just afraid of the Boltons anyway. As far as age goes, the show is taking place over much longer time period than the books. Sansa is already starting to look like an adult so I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Also, the people from Winterfell who would know her are all dead. Ramsay made sure of that when he burnt it to the ground and killed everyone who lived there. Theon is one of the few people still alive who actually grew up in Winterfell which is why they use him in the books.

    The biggest thing for me is I don't see why they emphasized so much the relationship between Theon and Ros in the first season if something isn't going to come out of it. Theon and Jeyne worked in the books because they knew each other from before so he cared about her well being. Do I think this is a great theory...no, but I think the writers could end up using it. There is also the high probability that they won't. But I was just throwing it out there.

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    Yeah I thought she may take the role of Arya, her differing appearance and age gap only serving to enhance the audience's thoughts of "How can these people seriously think she's Arya, this is nuts!"




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    Just to add on to my earlier post. Ros has only really interacted with a couple of characters throughout her time in King's landing (Tyrion, Varys, LF, Shae, Sansa) and literally all of those characters will no longer be in king's landing (Shae being in the ground) by the end of next season. There is no logical place for her storyline to go other than be used for Ramsay's wife or killed. She won't go with LF and Sansa to the Vale because Sansa needs to be completely reliant on LF and herself to make that storyline work. She won't go with any of the other characters either so unless she becomes Pycelle's permanent slampiece, her storyline appears to be coming to a dead end if they don't ship her off to Ramsay. Also Alayne Stone magically got a different color hair, I'm sure the same can be done for Ros (even though she's already a read head just not as auburn as Sansa so shouldn't take much).

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    I thought they put her in, obviously to save money on multiple actresses for whores, but to now show us more of what its like to be a Spy (Or one of Varys little Birds) and to continue building the rivalry between Varys and Littlefinger, and i too think she is FAR to old to be Sansa or Arya, God knows what they will do with her as show progresses.
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    How old is her character?

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    I would guess in her late teens early twenties.

    Ros says that she grew up in the town outside the walls of Winterfell, and remembers the day Sansa Stark was born. Sansa is only thirteen so we can guess she is at least five or six years older.

    Jon also mentions a brief encounter with a young, beautfil red haired whore who may have been Ros (when he explains to Sam that he did not want to bed her because he did not want to father a bastard), if so this would imply she was at least a young teen only a few years before the start of the series.
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    Default Re: Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    I had the impression that the character in the TV show were all quite older than their book counter parts be cause Martin regreted their age hr gave them. And i don´t mean only the children. Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon only 35? PpftYeah, right

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    Default Re: Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    The actress who plays Ros is 30, but like others have said, that could just be being done to make it even more unbelievable when she marries Ramsay.
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    One small point - obviously Jayne is rather traumatised by Ramsay's brutality in the books, particularly in the bedroom... Ros is quite used to all that **** in the series, having worked for Joffrey...

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    I wouldn't say she's "used" to it. Beating her pal at Joffrey's behest, witnessing the baby murdered by Slynt, being told by LF what he does to "bad investments" all clearly upset her. And they're nothing compared to what Ramsay will do to her.

    Plus it will have more emotional impact on the viewer if they've built Ros as a character over 5 series, rather than plucking RandomJeyne out of nowhere for Ramsay's bride.
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    Default Re: Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi View Post
    I wouldn't say she's "used" to it. Beating her pal at Joffrey's behest, witnessing the baby murdered by Slynt, being told by LF what he does to "bad investments" all clearly upset her. And they're nothing compared to what Ramsay will do to her.

    Plus it will have more emotional impact on the viewer if they've built Ros as a character over 5 series, rather than plucking RandomJeyne out of nowhere for Ramsay's bride.
    Damn good point.




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    Default Re: Theory about Ros from the show (MAJOR SPOILERS for all books)

    cmon guys, you are going overboard with this. jeyne pool may have not looked like arya by a long stretch, but the conspirators choose at least a familiar face (the daughter of a minor noble would still be more familiar than a random prostitute) who shared some attributes.





    "over the top so the scheme is more ridicolous", really?

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    Completely agree though, Sansa married to Tyrion and disappeared as a potential Kingslayer - no way they are going to change the story so much that "Sansa" could possibly be married to Ramsay.
    Certainly Ros has become a very familiar character, one who isn't in the books, but I do think she is simply there as one big coverall for the other important prostitutes in the stories: Alayaya and Chataya.
    And finally, perhaps to blow this theory out of the water, whilst Jeyne hasn't been seen in King's Landing, she does actually appear in the HBO series, back in Winterfell in the first season.
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