My Siege Of Bern

[Psychonautslog]

I played the German Empire. The French (allies) are besieging Bern. I don't want them to get it, so I join the siege a round later. Both armies have a general, the french army is slightly smaller.

German: general, three spearman, one crossbow, one archer, one knights

French: general, two archer, one townmilitia, one spearman,

Rebels: knights, three spearman, one townmilitia, one archer

Variation 1:

I stand by and watch the french general committing suicide in the rows of the rebel spearmen after the gate is crushed. The French rout with great looses, yet the rebels also suffer. Next I attack and rout the rebels. The city square is flagged in my colors, yet (surprise!) in the next round the french flag flies from the towers.

Variation 2:

Beginning is exactly the same as in 1: suicide of the french general, rout of his army, yet I only weaken the rebels this time. Then I break off the siege and in the next round attack again. Two rounds later my flag flies from the towers.

This is why I save several times in each rounds in different slots, so I can go back anytime. I also learned here, that it is possible to interrupt a siege indefinite by joining with merely one unit and after assault withdraw with it. The allied army also quits the battlefield then with all siege engines destroyed, so they have to start all over again.

[Dude with the Food]

Saving and reloading is an exploit. Just let them take the city. You can always take it back when they backstab you anyway.

[Vipman]

Saving and reloading is an exploit.

No. This is purely a matter of personal opinion. An exploit is a bug or an error in game mechanics that allow unintended results. Saving and loading is part of the game so it's up to each person to decide whether it's normal or not to reload.

[tudor93]

No. This is purely a matter of personal opinion. An exploit is a bug or an error in game mechanics that allow unintended results. Saving and loading is part of the game so it's up to each person to decide whether it's normal or not to reload.

No. It's cheating, but I don't care what others do, I don't judge .
OT: You must be sure that you are the one who actually assaults the walls in order for the settlement to become yours.

[marcus_agrippa]

OT: You must be sure that you are the one who actually assaults the walls in order for the settlement to become yours.

Like Tudor said, the one who mounts the actual assault on the campaign map will own the city, regardless what happens during the actual battle( if you win the battle ofc).

[Lord Jake]

No. This is purely a matter of personal opinion. An exploit is a bug or an error in game mechanics that allow unintended results. Saving and loading is part of the game so it's up to each person to decide whether it's normal or not to reload.

While I agree that everyone has the right to decide how they want to play the game from a personal preference, it really depends more on whether you are doing it as a "learning experience" which is something you do BEFORE you enter into competition, whether it be against the computer or other players. If you are playing an actual campaign, and you do it because you don't like an outcome, or because you are trying to get knowledge about the computer forces, it is most certainly cheating. What would your friends call it if you were playing them in a game of Monopoly, and you ended up landing on a spot they control and had to pay rent; and then announced that the first roll didn't count??? I'm pretty sure they would call you a cheater. If you get a bucket of "practice balls" to hit on the golf course, and hit the same shot over and over to get a specific outcome, you are practicing, not competing. If you are actually in competition, you get 1 ball to hit, and 1 swing. More than that is cheating.
When you hit that button/hour glass it says "end turn" not "see if you like the results" therefore it is clearly the intention of the game developers that you get 1 chance to do it right. If you do something over in a "campaign" it no longer qualifies as anything more than another round of practice. That is the way I see it, and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

[Rero]

It is not cheating since judging by logic the one who takes the city should have it. The french had just wasted all their men and his troops did all the work. Since the game in't clear on who gets the castle in that case the save is defendable as it was never the players decision to allow the french to take the city.