Discussion "Knicolas' HS": Eriador population boost

[Aldor]

Question: Do you wish me to give a population boost to some of Eriador's towns?

Please refrain from voting if you are not a participant of Knicolas' HS.

Y/N

Also write in your post below which towns and which population boost seems like a decent idea to you.

E.g. Y: "Bree" + 4000; "Fornost" + 1000


Vote count: (last post added#14)
Y: 3
N: 1

As most of you have not played in a TATW HS before, let me bring you up to speed on Eriador. Eriador...

Eriador is the probably the worst faction in the game if you don't know what your doing. Its Tier 1 Units are garbage, it can't recruit for the first 5 turns, and basiclly has Breeland Militia for the first 100 turns.

"I propose, fellow playas, wesa immediately give, emergency power to the duh sumpreme admin" (Aldor) basiclly allowing him to give Eriador a population boost to upgrade its town's, ect to higher level so it can recruit betters units, which balances the game. Please remember that Eriador takes 80 turns for it to upgrade one of its towns...And by then the HS will be over...

[Aldor]

I will refrain from voting, but here you have my thoughts.

Pro
- Eriador is the weakest faction
- Population boost can be subtle

Cons
- Game started
- Eriador can survive with diplomacy
- Usually the Elves and/or Dwarves save them because of pity, lore and/or corrupt deals

I'd probably choose the middle road by adding a small population boost (1000-2500) to 1-2 settlements that Gimli can choose.

[knicolas2]

That happens when i play the whole evening minecraft.. ill informed.
Ok i would say no because the hotseat has started and they can really survive with the help of the help of elves and dwarves. See the elves have to move their troops through eriador to reach and reinforce imladris in the east, dwarves want to destroy gundabad.

but if i start another hotseat it would be a good idea to give bree and maybe annuminas a small boost.

[knight of meh]

at the risk of trying to explain knicolas's hotseat to him i will post my thoughts..

the hotseat has started

relevance? console commands are there for a reason , no one has even started fighting in the north kingdom theatre yet.

they can really survive with the help of the help of elves and dwarves.

this is the issue which tiped me to yes actually your hotseat is not good V evil so it is meant to be as much a sandbox as possible (all factions have the same chance to win) this is not the case with eriador what will happen is the dwarves or elves will exploit eriador to divide the orcs, the bigger threat, then turn on Eriador to get more territory as there troops suck

See the elves have to move their troops through eriador to reach and reinforce imladris in the east, dwarves want to destroy gundabad.

again this is hotseat is not good V evil and imladris is already lost so the elves might decide taking Eriador lands is easier and the dwarfs might sign a pact with the orcs to divide Eriador , in short eriador should be able to stand a chance on it's own


Y: Bree , Annúminas undecided i will think about it but my initial thought was adding enough pop so that if the Eriador player played properly he could upgrade them between turns 15-25 i might edit this later...

[Arrow2daknee]

again this is hotseat is not good V evil and imladris is already lost so the elves might decide taking Eriador lands is easier and the dwarfs might sign a pact with the orcs to divide Eriador , in short eriador should be able to stand a chance on it's own

Actually, thanks to my diplomacy all the good factions in the northern kingdom theatre have allied to fight the orcs, and I won't fight Eriador unless they attack me first.

[knight of meh]

Actually, thanks to my diplomacy all the good factions in the northern kingdom theatre have allied to fight the orcs, and I won't fight Eriador unless they attack me first.

i know this wasn't news but still you could have kept your plans secret...

and the point is that depending on how the hotset goes Eriador still has a reduced chance of holding his own not through any fault of his own.. and my examples were just that examples of possibilities .. also can i point out that the dwarves and Eriador want to win too so if you finish of the orcs watch your back

[Arrow2daknee]

Yes, definitely makes my job easier.

Atleast give a population boost to Bree, so that they can recruit better and more units.

[knicolas2]

Good that you say that i´ve not thought of the point that it is not good vs evil. .
I´m still against it but if a majority is in favor i´ll say nothing against that

[complete noob:(]

Y: Bree + 2000. Annuminas +3000

[Arrow2daknee]

Lol, no way Eriador will win, after we kill the orcs than it will become a free for all in our theatre, and instead of me and the dwarves fighting over our own territories we will fight over Eriadors, can't wait for that.

Alliances probably aren't that big of a secret, it's not like I am telling you about our secret planning bunker or anything

[Gallus]

Well I am Eriador so I probably shouldn't vote. I'll just state some facts.
1. Eriador needs 3rd tier barracks to recruit anything other than Breeland militia and archer militia and lumbermen, which are the worst units in the game
2. Eriador can build those barrack in Amon Sul, which has mountain resource. That means Eriador can recruit 1 unit every 20 turns there
3. Eriador would need to upgrade either Bree, Annuminas or Fornost to build those barracks in a grassland region
4. Population boost has not been given to Eriador in any other HS
5. this HS has already started

[knight of meh]

5. this HS has already started

Again with this ... can someone inform this noob why this is such a big no no .. as long as it goes to the vote and the majority are for the changes not just the admin/leader of the hot seat then everything should be golden no?

i know it's just not done in hot seats normally but hey change is good if it's progress

[knicolas2]

Again with this ... can someone inform this noob why this is such a big no no .. as long as it goes to the vote and the majority are for the changes not just the admin/leader of the hot seat then everything should be golden no?

i know it's just not done in hot seats normally but hey change is good if it's progress

I´ve already said that i would accept a majority i´m not a dictator . But i do not want that you call somebody a noob.. I HOPE THIS IS CLEAR FOR YOU.

My proposal:
Bree and Annuminas +4000 .

In future hotseats i say yes for this one i´ve not decided by now

[knight of meh]

But i do not want that you call somebody a noob.. I HOPE THIS IS CLEAR FOR YOU.

it was a joke .. i was calling myself a noob...

Again with this ... can someone inform this noob why this is such a big no no ..

and if we replace it no joke ..

Again with this ... can someone inform me why this is such a big no no ..

[complete noob:(]

What if he calls me a noob

[Aldor]

My proposal:
Bree and Annuminas +4000 .

Can I excecute this proposal?

[Gimli]

I think all settlements should get a population boost, a larger boost for Annimus Bree and Amon sul since those are eriadors main settlements.

[Aldor]

Try to avoid further discussion. Everyone has had a chance to share his/her decision.

I'm trying to find something which is OK for everyone so I can implement it.

[Gimli]

Try to avoid further discussion. Everyone has had a chance to share his/her decision.

I'm trying to find something which is OK for everyone so I can implement it.

I don't think it's for everyone to decide, I think of what is fair. And personally,I think it would be more interesting to have all eriadors settlements given a population boost, more so in main settlements and have them turn into armor by turn 20 or 30 which would be really fun to see. And Evils factions are Op and arnor have almost same unit stats as Gondor but less.

[Aldor]

I'll do what the HS leader will finally decide.