Do you think the Papacy will be a playable faction?

[Turdetanian]

In the game info of the www.totalwar.com the Papacy appears as one of the 5 factions and we know there will be 5 playable factions at the begining of the game.


So could be the Papacy a playable campaign faction?

[KaerMorhen]

that doesn't concerns me much, there is far more atractive factions than Papal States.

[Valerius Maximus]

i personnally dont think the Papacy will be playable, at least not in the vanilla version. I see the Pope as the Senate in RTW...a big annoyance you have to overthrow...

[Space Voyager]

I see the Pope as the Senate in RTW...a big annoyance you have to overthrow...

Or use to your advantage. This is much more plausible with Papacy than it was with the Senate, since the Papacy is not the head of an empire and does not fear you overthrowing them. So even if your power rise the Papacy won't dislike you like the Senate did.

Anyway, it was already said what a Papacy campaign could look like; you could manage the religious aspect of the game with giving money to the factions in war with other religions, sponsor Crusades, excommunicate the Christian faction that would attack another Christian faction etc.. The goal of the campaign would be to convert enough of the old world into Christianity. You would gain money from all Christian factions. The rest of the game would be the same as of other facions. Developing Vatican, sending diplomats&merchants. I guess princesses would be excluded from the Papacy campaign.

This would call for quite a lot of Papacy specific game features and I'm sure it won't be in the M2TW. Also almost certainly not possible to mod in. But it would be REALLY cool to play a "manager" type of game.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

I would say no.
We know that there will be 4 unplayable faction and Mongols, Timurids and Aztec will be that since they come in later in the game so that leaves one faction.
And since the papal state is a more interesting version of the senate then they will not be playable either.

[Sitarus Originalus PM-30+]

I would say no.
We know that there will be 4 unplayable faction and Mongols, Timurids and Aztec will be that since they come in later in the game so that leaves one faction.
And since the papal state is a more interesting version of the senate then they will not be playable either.

exactly... i think papal states wont be playable as roman senat wasnt

[KaerMorhen]

The Aztec and all 1492 events are little bit odd to me. Conquest of "New World" is not very interesting for me, and by any chance will they have a chance to invade Europe as well, this is weird in my opinion.

[Carach]

The Aztec and all 1492 events are little bit odd to me. Conquest of "New World" is not very interesting for me, and by any chance will they have a chance to invade Europe as well, this is weird in my opinion.

i too think the idea of the americas is just stupid.

[carl-the-conqueror]

no

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Aztecs won't be able to invade Europe.
According to CA you need the technology to travel that far and doubt Aztecs won't have that.
But it would be kinda fun actually if they did.
However there are evidence that some South american people did travel to Europe.
The ancient Egyptians had a very good trade with them.

[Carach]

However there are evidence that some South american people did travel to Europe.
The ancient Egyptians had a very good trade with them.

You sure your not talking about india?

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

You sure your not talking about india?

Nope.
The egyptians had goods such as cocaine and tobacco, things you could only find in South America.

yeah i heard about that, some people whent from africa to america in a reed boat didnt they ?

Other way around, they went from America to Africa on a reed boat.

I hope CA make ALL Catholic factions "crusadable"

Already confirmed that they can.

[Ringeck]

Nope.
The egyptians had goods such as cocaine and tobacco, things you could only find in South America.

While I too love TV shows and sensationalist news, I have to direct you to the following essay:
http://www.thehallofmaat.com/modules...article&sid=45

Occam's razor tells us what to conclude in this instance. I always visit a skeptics page after hearing stories similar to the one you are referring to. The Hall of Maat is one of the better ones.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

While I too love TV shows and sensationalist news, I have to direct you to the following essay:
http://www.thehallofmaat.com/modules...article&sid=45

Seems reliable, I withdraw my statement

[KaerMorhen]

Nope.
The egyptians had goods such as cocaine and tobacco, things you could only find in South America.


Other way around, they went from America to Africa on a reed boat.


Already confirmed that they can.

That's great news indeed just can't wait till I lunch crusade as a Pole, Magyar and Dane!!!

[carl-the-conqueror]

Aztecs won't be able to invade Europe.
According to CA you need the technology to travel that far and doubt Aztecs won't have that.
But it would be kinda fun actually if they did.
However there are evidence that some South american people did travel to Europe.
The ancient Egyptians had a very good trade with them.

yeah i heard about that, some people whent from africa to america in a reed boat didnt they ?

[Goliath]

Aztecs won't be able to invade Europe.
According to CA you need the technology to travel that far and doubt Aztecs won't have that.
But it would be kinda fun actually if they did.
However there are evidence that some South american people did travel to Europe.
The ancient Egyptians had a very good trade with them.

Do you have, or can you find a link to back that up?

[Cyrus the Virus]

No, what are the player exactly suppose to do as that faction..Don't make sense

[KaerMorhen]

I hope CA make ALL Catholic factions "crusadable"

[mark0701]

I very much doubt they will be as it would be too easy if you had the powers of the pope.

You could just make outlandish demands with the threat of ex communication if they don't agree.