War for Westeros

[Emperor of Hell]

It sounds like another one of those actions as in FKOT .

[Emperor of Hell]

and that extension sounds like a bloody waste of time.

[Uriyaca]

No bug abuse (no naval bug), only a brilliant plan to break through your deffences
And this time Clegane will die in battle

Lol I know it's a waste of time, but this turn is so crucial that hurrying with it will be stupid. I would rather reload a ******** of times and take the best out if the turn

You are going to LOVE this turn Empy. And my promise to take KL will come true . In 2-3 turns tho, haven't decided on whether to besiege KL this turn or not.....

[Emperor of Hell]

72 hours for a turn is too long. find a sub or post that turn bloody fast.

[Uriyaca]

Grown restless haven't you Empy? Scared you with last post didn't I?

There is no choise for me right now, I'm going to sleep now and wake up at 6 AM and I won't have any time to play my turn, and since this is SUCH an important turn I can't have anyone subbing it

Also, it's not bloody 72 hours. It's my normal 24 hours + 24 hours extension, as I'll be gone only for 2 days


jo gonna love this turn

[zaracassie]

If it is only a normal extension i see no reason to deny it since it is an important turn.

[Emperor of Hell]

I thought you meant 24 hours for your turn + another 48 hours. That'd be too long imo.

[Uriyaca]

(For those who wonder how I could be posting the turn so soon while I'm on my trip, please see this post- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post12787990 )

Glorious turn for King Stannis and a HUGE advancement on his conquest of Westeros and securing his kingship-

1) King Stannis's devious plan to break through the deffences in the Crownlands has been succecefull! let me tell you a story. A story of

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it all started 3 turns ago, after Stannis took Duskendale. Joffrey has ordered a placement of huge fortwall so he could escape Stannis's wrath, as is his cowardish behavior. Stannis himself ordered a placement of forts as well as a payback, and also as a way to get around the fortwall.
In return Joffrey has placed another fort, making it impossible for Stannis to go around the deffences. Seeing as Lord Tywin and his full stack were approaching, Roose Bolton's stack of vile northerners and Edmure Tully leading an extra stack of treatcherous Rivermen he took the smart way and retreated to his ships, to come again where the Joffrey deffences are weak. The Crownland forts were abandoned, and Joffrey took them, abandoning his previous forts
BUT, there was a whole in his deffences now. Stannis could attack one of the empty forts left behind from the ZoC of Joffrey's current forts. The problem was that he didn't have enough movement points. Hoping the loophole will remain there one more turn, he has sent a unit of Spear Militia to take that fort and then disbanded them, as such leaving no trace
In his turn, Joffrey has done exactly what he hoped he would do, took the empty fort. Being that the fort was an enemy fort, it was possible for him, after already preparing to strike there, to get an entire stack through the Lannister deffences

Valeryon and Ronald Storm, with Alester Florent and Celtigar also coming with them, have come through the Crownland deffences

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2) Monford Valeryon and Ronald Storm have crushed Sandor Clegane's host! he was hiding behind his fortwall, after breaking through the fortwall. His host was smashed by the brave Monford Valeryon, Lord Paramount of the Riverlands in the stead of Edmure Tully (he is an AWESOME general ^^ ). After the battle he and his stack retreated to Rosby (he still lives damnit, I managed to kill him once but after reloading he was still alive )

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(results were actually different, lost only 600 men by a Clear Victory, I reloaded a LOT of times )

3) Stannis has put the great city of King's Landing under siege! by constructing 3 forts I believe I have forted off most of your men, except the KL garrison only the men at the southern fort (between King's Landing and Rosby) and the men at Antlers can join the battle. You have slightly more men then me, but my men are better I believe and my general WAAAAAAAY superior then yours (Slynt compared to Stannis? I mean, can you even compare them? ). Possible you can lift the siege, tho much doubt it. If you do it wouldn't be the end of the world, Stannis will retreat to his ship and Valeryon and Storm will get the job done next turn ^^ .

4) A merriage alliance has been signed between King Stannis and House Arryn after the battle against Clegane, the Arryn princess has wed Axell Florent and by doing so has pledged it's fealty to King Stannis, as for now King Stannis holds half the Crownlands and soon all of them, the Stormlands, the Reach, the Iron Isles and the Vale while Dorne has yet to pledge fealty to anybody yet. While the traitor Robb Stark only holds the Riverlands and north while Joffrey is dead soon

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All in all, a fantastic turn for King Stannis. And more to come! . After dealing with Joffrey, Stannis turns his attention towards another Usurper... oh hello there Robb . How nice to see you

You are up Lord Renly- http://www.filedropper.com/wfwrenly6

[complete noob:(]

I personally think that is a bug and warrants a replay. You completely skipped through a fort's ZoC (not to mention the fort should've disappeared anyways).

(And I would say this no matter who did it or who it benefited)

[Emperor of Hell]

1st goddamn turn order not destroying that empty fort
2d Isn't there a no ally with AI rule?

[Uriyaca]

When landing on a ZoC, your movement points are taken and your only option is to attack. You can attack any of the sorrounding 9 squares, and being that the fort was an enemy fort I was able to go there. That was also why I could only get one stack through

Oh and Empy,

I didn't understand your first comment, regarding the second one, there is no rule that I'm aware of. In FKOT in the rules I said it's allowed to do everything with the AI factions except of taking their lands. That means you can ally them, and you can ware them. But you cannot take their lands

[Emperor of Hell]

I thought empty forts were destroyed after your turn but it's after all turns. So last in turn order can never have his own forts used against him.

[Riverknight]

Joff up!

[zaracassie]

Hang on chaps taking a look.

[zaracassie]

It is entirely possible for your men to go the route suggested, then preform what took me a while to figure out. By using celtigar you drew out Sandor, then you moved velaryon on his own into Sandors zoc, then the rest of your army? only in that order could i engage Sandor with the full forces, and only lost 150 men I needed to do this to ensure it was not the navy bug.

As for forts i believe they are destroyed at the start of the owners turn not the end of all turns. In a test of Renly and Tyrell both could use this tactic. Although i do not support the use of disbanding the unit after taking the fort the turn before in an attempt to keep it there as that seems bad. Although why did you take it back Emperor of Hell?

I had a very tough time coming to a decision on this reading what is already considered a bug. But it defeats the purpose of the fortwall in a way that is buggy and allowed you to completely decimate a faction. As such I request a reply please.

[Emperor of Hell]

Although why did you take it back Emperor of Hell?

No good reason really, just to move my troops through there.

As such I request a reply please.

Reply or Replay ?

[Uriyaca]

I reloaded a LOT of times and I kept getting worst and worst stats (lost more men) and I couldn't reverse it, so I gave up and lost 600 men

I didn't understand at all what Empy was saying about abusing the turn order, the only reason the forts remained was that he took it for some unknown reason, if he did not then I couldn't have done this. It was his own damn fault

It is NOT buggy way of passing a ZoC, it's like leaving a trail of bread crums for me to follow. It makes sense to me ENTIRELY and I think it is really wrong to make me replay. disbanding that unit was a brilliant move (in my opinion at least ^^) and as far as I'm concerned, there is no rule against disbanding units-

You cannot take this vic away from me, please

Anyway, Empy said he could defeat Stannis anyway so it isn't the end of his faction, so I urge you to keep the original save please

[zaracassie]

Replay. I made the decision on keeping the hot seat moving. Although I would be interested in what the community would have to say about my ruling so i shall post in constitution thread for some feedback about future rulings.

[Uriyaca]

Also, you can't always make someone replay when he defeats someone is an unconventional way, this is a strategy game and I planned this manuver for a long time and a replay is foolish in my opinion;
just like how the admin made me replay in FOTS and took my chance to destroy a Mudd stack with something that isn't against the rules. Because of his ruling I am losing now, and I HATE when people do that

[complete noob:(]

Also, you can't always make someone replay when he defeats someone is an unconventional way, this is a strategy game and I planned this manuver for a long time and a replay is foolish in my opinion;
just like how the admin made me replay in FOTS and took my chance to destroy a Mudd stack with something that isn't against the rules. Because of his ruling I am losing now, and I HATE when people do that

It is a loophole in the game's engine. Not an "unconventional way". IMO at least