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    Thanks again Mircea for all that amazing research +rep!

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    So I'm just wondering, what will be the historical background of the Greek Rebels? Who will be leading them? Will there be any historical reality to them? Furthermore what does the Two Towers team imagine their armies might look like? I'd love to see some kind of restoration of the Varangian Guard but perhaps with a 1648 spin to them!

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    Halberds had replaced axes in the 17th century and some of the best halberdiers were from Switzerland and Northern Italy. If the Greek rebels are led by Charles Gonzaga of Mantua, the choice is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k/t View Post
    No "Ana" and "Ioana" for the feminine names? "Elena"?

    I have done no research, but it seems odd for those names to be missing. Are they too modern?
    In the sources I consulted, specificity boyar families genealogies and a PhD thesis on onomastics, the first two names were not mentioned until 18-19th centuries, while the name Elena is more often present starting after mid 17th century, while until then were more popular its variants Ileana and Ilinca.

    Nonetheless, the list is not exhaustive and I plan adding more details in case I find more...

    Quote Originally Posted by k/t View Post
    Muntenia = Wallachia, if it isn't clear.

    "Lefegi" should be "Lefegii"?



    I pity them.
    Yes, Wallachia is the exonym for Tara Romaneasca or Muntenia.

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    Because my information concerning Transylvania are somewhat sparser, it took me longer to find accurate info and any aid in completing these data is appreciated.

    Magyar Noble houses of Transylvani
    a: Kendi, Bathory, Rákóczy, Bocskay, Csáky, Bethlen, Kendy, Apafi, Imreffy, Bánffy, Barcsay, Kemény, Rhédey, Károlyi, Telegdi, Gyulay, Lorantffy

    Masculine names: István, Kristóf, Zsigmond, András, Miklós, György, Lászlo, Janos, Péter, Imre, Ferenc, Mihály, Farkas

    Feminine names: Zsófia, Anna, Erzsébet, Izabella, Klara, Margit, Sara, Zsuzsanna, Julianna, Ilona, Kata

    In what concerns Transylvanian Saxon officialities, I found a very interesting website:
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bgwiehle/siebenburgen/sbs-namen/index.htm

    The army of the Principality of Transylvania
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    1. Banderia - The nobility of the Transylvanian Principality maintained, until the second half of the Seventeenth century, an important military role (Personalis insurectio), they served mostly on horseback, in general armed with lance, shield, helmet and cuirass and chainmail, while major magnates also came with their retinues (Banderium), especially those with large estates in Royal Hungary. In 1595, “Sigismund’s soldiers from Transylvania and Hungary amounted to around 7,000 riders (…) These are armed with long lances, as long as medium pikes of 25 hands long, they have a mace at the saddle and yatagan at the hip, as well as a straight sword, on the other side of the saddle. They use it when on horseback and the yatagan while on foot. They protect their life and chest with a chainmail shirt, breastplate and back plate with sleeves and gloves from chainmail, and a Hungarian style helmet that cover their entire neck and face.” At the same campaign, “the nobleman Bocskay from Oradea came with 800 riders, all lancers and 1,200 footmen, all with harquebuses. … His Highness courtiers numbered 2,000 riders.” For the campaign from 1607, comitatenses nobility contributed with 500 riders and 500 infantrymen, Saxons paid for the equipment of 1,000 riders, while Szekelys contributed with 2,000 riders and 1,000 infantrymen.

    2. Portalis Militia – an auxiliary unit raised from among the peasants on nobles estates proportionally to the size of estates divided in portalis (a porta, or "gate," being a taxable unit). In late 16th century, those recruited in this fashion were footmen, either armed with firearms or with spears and swords, but also light cavalrymen. Starting from the second quarter 17th century, Transylvanian diet often voted to pay a certain sum per fiscal unit in order to allow recruitment of mercenaries instead of milita portalis. In the campaign from 1595 in Wallachia, there were ”5,000 Hungarian footmen, which lack protective covers, but a part of them have harquebuses and the other have short pikes, but all of them have yatagans on the left hip and a hatchet, hanging on the belt. “

    3. Székely militia – Székely were obliged to provide significant military contingents in exchange for their administrative privileges. Szekely militia is recorded as being made up of three distinct groups, those that serve with three other mounted men, individual horsemen and finally infantry. There were three orders of rank, the Primores, the Primipili and the communitas. The Primores were equivalent to Nobles, though Chieftains would probably be more accurate. They provided the military leadership. The Primipili represented the landowners class which had the possibility of serving on horse ( Székely lófők), while communitas the bulk of the Szekely Nation, served on foot. Veres darabontok (Red Trabanten), also known as Pixdari, they served as footmen and were recruited from among the Székely, ethnic group located on the eastern border of the Transylvania, they played a key role in the defense of the principality They were described being dressed in red, having few harquebuses, armed with short axes or hatchets, curved swords (yatagans) and hatchets hanging at the hip.During Sigismund Bathory’s campaigns in late 16th century were over 22,000 Székely, of which 8,200 armed with harquebuses and the rest armed with spears or with scythes, as well as lancers. In the campaign from 1595 in Walalchia, there were “more than 6,000 Székely without any protection, with few harquebuses and all of them with short sickles and with yatagan and hatchets at the hip. “

    4. Sachsen Trabanten Saxon cities from Transylvania were obliged to send a set number of infantrymen in support of specific campaigns. At the campaign of 1595 were Saxon cities provided 1,000 trabanten from Sibiu, dressed in black, blue for Brasov, green for Sighisoara&Medias, red from Bistrita, mostly armed with harquebuses. These cities also had the duty to ensure their own garrison. At the campaign from 1595, Saxon cities provided the following contingents: city of Sibu, 1,000 black trabanten, Brasov, 1,000 blue trabanten, Medias and Sighisoara with 1,00 green trabanten, all harquebusiers, Bistrita …1,000 red footmen…1,000 blue trabanten from Prince’s Court, Orastie, Sebes, Scaunul Miercurei and Scaunul Cincul Mare sent 500 harquebusiers.Other militia units were formed by towns with fiscal autonomy. The major ones like Cluj, Oradea and Targu Mures had each permanent garrisons of 200 men, each.

    5. Hajduks - Transylvania (Hajdú ) were irregular or mercenary soldiers, included ruined peasants, runaway serfs or refugees from the Ottoman empire or Hapsburg lands. Located in the mainly in the western borderlands of Transylvania, they were receiving wages during campaigns, and also received a share of the plunder. Serving both on foot and on horse, they were experienced irregular fighters. Bethlen Gábor (Gabriel Bethlen), in 1620s used 4-5,000 haidones liberi (free hajduks).

    6. Mercenaries
    . In Transylvania, mercenaries constituted the standing army of the principality, which amounted to 4,000 elite cavalrymen and several detachments of infantrymen, in 1583. In 1595, Sigismund had 1,500 imperial Reiters, pistol armed cavalry, and 148 Scottish mercenaries and also recruited mercenaries from Italy and Germany. While in 1599, Andrei Bathory had 300 mercenary heavy cavalrymen from Poland. During a campaign in 1620, prince Bethlen had 2,000 mercenary cavalrymen and the same number of mercenary infantrymen.

    7. The Guard corps of Transylvanian Prince. Kek darabontok,
    Transylvanian Prince guard also included 1,000 trabanten dressed in blue and all armed with harquebuses. In 1595, prince Sigismund Bathory had “2,000 trabanten armed like the previous mentioned soldiers, but all of them have harquebuses … they were the personal infantry guard of the Transylvanian Prince”. The prince’s guard included 600 mercanry lancers. . Székely also had the duty to send 100 cavalrymen to serve in the Prince’s guard corps.

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    Thanks once again Mircea for your invaluable contributions. Could you find any information on whether any of the Romanian and related factions used pikes, pike and shot formations or whether they had any other tactical formations?

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    What about this submod?
    Is still alive?
    Last edited by Brezkimra; November 03, 2015 at 04:31 PM.
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    The Two Towers are in a kind of hiatus. We need Monti back and his energy.

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    The Army of Transylvania:
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    More pictures about Transylvanian Principality soldiers and their weapons:
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    -veteran soldier in typical hungarian armament (sabre, battle axe, short arquebuse)
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    -hajdu footman (irregular, skilled mercenary freeman) (typically wear sabre, battle axe, short arquebuse)
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    -Székely "red" infantrymen (They wears red clothes, sabre, short arquebus)
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    to Kingdom of Hungary:
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    Many thanks Szikelkun for all those interesting pictures, much appreciated. We have Transylvanian units in the 1648 mod but of course a few additional ones for Two Towers would do no harm, if we can find an enthusiastic modder. +rep

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    This mod still ongoing?

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