(updated 2/26/2019) My new and improved AI errr 3.0

[beermugcarl]

It was working without the files, then backed up the original files and installed your modified files and it kicked me back to main menu when I tried to start a campaign. I put the original files back and it worked.

But vanilla with DaC workes fine

I managed to replicate it as well but i asked the mos mod team about it and they told me that modding files that aren't map files for mos often messes up the game because of the amount of installers that they run - so sorry about that

[zorphon]

Does this work with MSC? I'd love an improvement to the CAI in it, I don't really like it, but I love the rest of MSC.

[beermugcarl]

Does this work with MSC? I'd love an improvement to the CAI in it, I don't really like it, but I love the rest of MSC.

in theory.

tell me if it doesn't.

[zorphon]

in theory.

tell me if it doesn't.

Hmm. How would I go about knowing if it's working or not? Something like CAI it could be hard to notice the small differences between MSC/Vanilla SS and your little mod. I'll definitely give it a try I just don't know how to see the difference, it's more long-term when it comes to CAI, know what I mean?

[beermugcarl]

Hmm. How would I go about knowing if it's working or not? Something like CAI it could be hard to notice the small differences between MSC/Vanilla SS and your little mod. I'll definitely give it a try I just don't know how to see the difference, it's more long-term when it comes to CAI, know what I mean?

well, i think you will notice but also if it doesn't crash it then its worked

but seriously it should be compatible with EVERYTHING in the stainless sub-forum. the only person who has said it hasn't worked was when it caused a crash and it was for a third_Age sub mod.

so what i'm saying is... if it doesn't crash then it works. though i will point out that if you run the setup you will have to copy and paste the files again.

[GiddeeUpp]

any idea of how compatible this is with Stainless Steel Historical Improvement Project (SSHIP)? P.S thanks for the lead on the TATW version.

[Kilgore Trout]

You say: for the core buildings, I advise these lines

construction_cost_bonus_stone bonus 100requires event_counter is_the_ai 1
construction_cost_bonus_wooden bonus 100requires event_counter is_the_ai 1

Do you mean just add these lines once, after this line, like this:

building core_building
construction_cost_bonus_stone bonus 100 requires event_counter is_the_ai 1
construction_cost_bonus_wooden bonus 100 requires event_counter is_the_ai 1

Or do you mean to add these lines for each building, like this:

convert_to core_castle_building
construction_cost_bonus_stone bonus 100 requires event_counter is_the_ai 1
construction_cost_bonus_wooden bonus 100 requires event_counter is_the_ai 1

Or should I be adding these lines somwhere else?

Also, I play exclusively with BGRV. I think BYG removed the old economy boost scripts and added the below instead. It looks to me like it may result in massive unit spam. What do you think might happen if I just removed the BYG's and substituted your building entries instead?

In the BGRV campaign script there are the following economy script entries (I've posted for one difficulty level - 3, and one faction - Sicily, only):


THIS:

set_event_counter DifficultyLevel 3


historic_event difficulty_hard


link_faction_ai sicily catholic

if I_IsFactionAIControlled sicily
increment_kings_purse sicily 1300
end_if


AND THIS:

monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionType sicily
and IsFactionAIControlled
and Treasury < 100000
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily <= 1
set_kings_purse sicily 7000
end_if
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily >= 2
and I_NumberOfSettlements sicily <= 19
set_kings_purse sicily 6000
end_if
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily >= 20
set_kings_purse sicily 3000
end_if
end_monitor


monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionType sicily
and not IsFactionAIControlled
and Treasury < 100000
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily <= 1
set_kings_purse sicily 5000
end_if
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily >= 2
and I_NumberOfSettlements sicily <= 19
set_kings_purse sicily 4000
end_if
if I_NumberOfSettlements sicily >= 20
set_kings_purse sicily 2000
end_if
end_monitor


monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionType sicily
and Treasury >= 100000
set_kings_purse sicily 500
end_monitor

[SandraDevilGirl]

Still not working (but I guess you haven't updated the files?)

[knight of meh]

i would like to point out MOS uses really bad AI by germaniu5 (i think that's right...) as standard and adding two AI changing mods that aren't made with each other in mind often break each other .. so regardless of the installers it still might not work :

[beermugcarl]

i would like to point out MOS uses really bad AI by germaniu5 (i think that's right...) as standard and adding two AI changing mods that aren't made with each other in mind often break each other .. so regardless of the installers it still might not work :

it doesn't conflict with RBAI because thats a battle AI and this is a campaign AI.
the reason it doesn't work with mos is quite confusing, having conversed with several members of the team they don't really know why without sinking much of their time into figuring out why so its just going to have to be as it is in concerns with mos as nobody really knows

though i was told OVER AND OVER that because mos has a bunch of installers running off bat files that any changes tend to conflict in one way or the other.

fortunately for me, the AI isn't really targeted at third_Age just that it should be compatible

[knight of meh]

it doesn't conflict with RBAI because thats a battle AI and this is a campaign AI.

Campaign AI by Alreadyded

i knew there was one active in MOS

fortunately for me, the AI isn't really targeted at third_Age just that it should be compatible

i'm glad one less head ache for you

[SandraDevilGirl]

Okey, so it dont work with MOS then :-) to bad...but as you say, AI is not important in TA, just make it the Lore 100% and everything is good :-)

[SandraDevilGirl]

So PCP CAI is already in MOS?

[knight of meh]

no i believe a campaign AI that Alreadyded made is included in MOS , the PCP AI is newer with more tinkering .. i am actually meant to beta test the latest round of changes when he is finished adding other stuff

[SandraDevilGirl]

Okey thanks, cant say that the MOS CAI is any impressive but I havent tried PCP (waithing for the next patch) or vanilla TA other than alittle with DaC map submob. (it was bad also) But, I see that his mod worked on vanilla TA with DaC so I might give it a shot but playing vanilla TA ( even with this awesome remade map) is like going back to the stone age compared to all the good SUBMODS out there.

[povros]

Hi
Is this compatible with SSMAP submod?

[beermugcarl]

uploaded specific edits for hurb. will do ssmap when 08 is released. for anything else (thera, third age, vanilla ss) use the misc mods options. i take requests


also edits to make it more aggressive, more naval jumps (trying to get the balance between no naval blockade declarations and still invading by boat is tricky).

[Overlord.ru]

I'm currently using ur AI with SSHIP 0.7c and I must admit I find it quite challenging for VH/VH, guess I may rate it 9/10 so far. The only thing I changed is autoresolve, I took it from Soulson AI. Please consider improving vassalage too...

[beermugcarl]

I'm currently using ur AI with SSHIP 0.7c and I must admit I find it quite challenging for VH/VH, guess I may rate it 9/10 so far. The only thing I changed is autoresolve, I took it from Soulson AI. Please consider improving vassalage too...

what was wrong with the auto_resolve?

thank you very much for the feedback!

EDIT: i actually JUST changed the auto_resolve today in the new upload but you only get the auto_resolve stuff in the HURB pack atm because that file can mess about with some mods.

[Overlord.ru]

Well, the autoresolve section of your AI seemed like a default style to me, which usually means a loss of an army if using it, so I took it from the Soulson's AI (which he took from XAI anyway )