I felt kinda guilty playing a silvan campaign right now. It was just that they kept on trying to bribe my generals and well.. it extremely annoyed me.. Will i be cursed to walk ME forever with seeing teh light of valinor?
Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
I felt kinda guilty playing a silvan campaign right now. It was just that they kept on trying to bribe my generals and well.. it extremely annoyed me.. Will i be cursed to walk ME forever with seeing teh light of valinor?
Re: Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
Nope. I find it to be more fun killing the would-be allies sometimes. Bit more of a challenge compared to an orc wouldn't you agree?
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True but they were my allies and we shed blood together but they wouldnt back off.. So i think im responsible for the fourth kingslaying....Originally Posted by DaSwede97
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Senator
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Oh God, well be here all year
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My campaigns oftens ends up in a total warMe killing everything
Arnor vs. Gondor is some massive shiny battles
Re: Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
YES! But killing other sentient species is totally alright! Geneva conventions don't apply to aliens. Or orcs. Or elves. Or maiar. Or trolls. Or giants. Or dragons. Or etc. etc...
Semisalis
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Another Kinslaying?
Jean-Snow
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Only if they refuse to give you their ships or keep interfering with your horrible oath.
Semisalis
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Yes. it's sick.
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Believe me chris i didnt want to. If only i couldnt assassinated the lorien diplomat i wouldnt have broken the alliance but trying to bribe my generals and setttlements, whats an elf to do?
Semisalis
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hahaha, you sound pretty much like a serial killer...Believe me chris i didnt want to. If only i couldnt assassinated the lorien diplomat i wouldnt have broken the alliance but trying to bribe my generals and setttlements, whats an elf to do?
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Do i?
Exactly formann. It was a hard choice. I didnt wanna do it i swear... (hides many elf heads in the fridge)..
but things really came to a head when fighting near dol guldur before i took it, i was heavily outnumbered and a lorien army nearby though "hell no" and left me to fight on my own. I won but i almost lost legolas.. Whats an elf lord to do?
As an ally im great. i help out when ever i can but there are limit... In my defence, lothlorien broke its word first...
Primicerius
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Last edited by Feanaro Curufinwe; March 16, 2013 at 10:56 AM.
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Re: Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
I think the Silvan Elven archers do more damage on their early archers, but the High Elven best archers have more armor than the Silvan Heavy Archers.You can do, if you're heartlessI personally wouldn't for lore reasons and the fact that it just makes more enemies. Which is actually stronger archer-wise out of HE and SE?
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In it for the rep.
Primicerius
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@Feanaro Curufinwe
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Re: Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
You can do, if you're heartless
WE HAVE NO CAKE!
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You can do, if you're heartlessCode:;#################################################################;########################## HIGH ELVES ######################### ;################################################################# type Elf Archer2 dictionary Elf_Archer2 ; Bow Quendi category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier quendi_bow, 48, 0, 1 officer highel_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 9, 2, elven_arrow, 170, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 1, 6, 0, leather stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 2 stat_ground 0, -1, 0, -1 stat_mental 11, normal, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 480, 200, 75, 75, 480, 4, 100 armour_ug_levels 0, 1 armour_ug_models quendi_bow, quendi_bow_upg ownership egypt era 0 egypt era 1 egypt era 2 egypt recruit_priority_offset 0 type Homeguard Warriors dictionary Homeguard_Warriors ;Homeguard Warriors category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier homeguard_bow, 48, 0, 1 officer highel_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 10, 2, elven_arrow, 190, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 8, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 2, 7, 0, leather stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 2 stat_ground 0, -1, 0, -1 stat_mental 12, normal, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 590, 240, 75, 75, 590, 4, 100 armour_ug_levels 1, 2 armour_ug_models homeguard_bow, homeguard_bow_upg ownership egypt era 0 egypt era 1 egypt era 2 egypt recruit_priority_offset 0 type Elf Archer3 dictionary Elf_Archer3 ; Eldarinwë Archers category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier elf_archer_noldor, 48, 0, 1.2 officer highel_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 12, 2, elven_arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 12, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 9, 6, 0, metal stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 5 stat_ground 0, -2, 0, -1 stat_mental 14, disciplined, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 840, 330, 100, 100, 840, 2, 250 armour_ug_levels 3, 4 armour_ug_models Elf_Archer_Noldor, Elf_Archer_Noldor_upg ownership egypt era 0 egypt era 1 egypt era 2 egypt recruit_priority_offset 5They're almost totally even, the Silvan early archers are a bit stronger but also a bit more expensive whereas the Eldar archers have a higher defense than the Silvan heavy archers but are also a bit more expensive.Code:;################################################################# ;########################## SILVAN ELVES ####################### ;################################################################# type Elf Archer dictionary Elf_Archer ; Elven Archers category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier Elf_Archer, 48, 0, 1 officer silvan_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 9, 2, elven_arrow, 170, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 2, 6, 0, leather stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 2 stat_ground 0, -1, 0, -1 stat_mental 11, normal, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 500, 210, 75, 75, 500, 4, 100 armour_ug_levels 0, 1 armour_ug_models Elf_Archer, Elf_Archer_upg ownership mongols era 0 mongols era 1 mongols era 2 mongols recruit_priority_offset 0 type Silvan Archer dictionary Silvan_Archer ; Silvan Archers category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier Silvan_Archer, 48, 0, 1 officer silvan_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, stakes, stakes, free_upkeep_unit move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 11, 2, elven_arrow, 200, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 9, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 3, 6, 0, leather stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 2 stat_ground 0, -1, 0, -1 stat_mental 12, normal, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 620, 250, 65, 65, 620, 3, 150 armour_ug_levels 0, 1 armour_ug_models Silvan_Archer, Silvan_Archer_upg ownership mongols era 0 mongols era 1 mongols era 2 mongols recruit_priority_offset 5 type Elf Guard dictionary Elf_Guard ; Silvan Heavy Archers category infantry class missile voice_type Heavy banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier Elf_Guard, 48, 0, 1.2 officer silvan_captain_early_flag mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 3 stat_pri 12, 2, elven_arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 12, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 8, 5, 0, metal stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 6 stat_ground 0, -2, 0, -1 stat_mental 14, disciplined, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 780, 300, 100, 100, 780, 2, 250 armour_ug_levels 3, 4 armour_ug_models Elf_Guard, Elf_Guard_upg ownership mongols era 0 mongols era 1 mongols era 2 mongols recruit_priority_offset 10 type Elf Bodyguard dictionary Elf_Bodyguard ; Sindar Archers category infantry class missile voice_type General banner faction main_missile banner holy crusade soldier elf_guard2, 30, 0, 1.2 mount_effect elephant +3 attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, extreme_range, very_hardy, can_withdraw, start_not_skirmishing, general_unit, free_upkeep_unit move_speed_mod 1.1 formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square stat_health 1, 2 stat_pri 13, 2, elven_arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 12, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 0, 1 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 8, 7, 0, metal stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 6 stat_ground 0, -2, 0, -1 stat_mental 16, disciplined, highly_trained stat_charge_dist 15 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 2, 860, 250, 100, 100, 860, 2, 250 armour_ug_levels 3, 4 armour_ug_models elf_guard2, elf_guard2_upg ownership mongols era 0 mongols era 1 mongols era 2 mongols recruit_priority_offset 5
The Sindar archers (SE bodyguard) are the best but they come in smaller numbers.
Senator
Re: Is it wrong when playing an elvish faction, to kill fellow elves?
Yes it is wrong, almost like cannibalism. I always allies with elves as elf or rohan, I keep it as book was kill the bad guys. just imagine being allied with mordor, weird.
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