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    Default Re: Build a PC for Rome 2 / Hardware Recommendations and Advice Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Micon View Post
    Aye, rolling without power supply is a good idea . I am worried about the inconsisty of wireless internet. I am considering a Powerline, is it a good idea?
    I've got a powerline, from devolo, it can be quite faster than a wireless, but much depends on how your house is wired, put it in the wrong socket and it will be very slow, if the wrong socket happens to be the one nearest to your PC it won't be good. Also it can cause some interference with speakers, if they are connected to the same or a nearby electricity socket (I had to use a filter). If they allow you to return it after you tested it, it would be worth it, so you can see how it works for you and if it causes you problems you can just return it.
    Also if you do want to get one, try to get one that allows you to still use the socket.

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    The 840 120gb is way slower not the 840 pro 128gb
    Wireless N is okay when you have a good access point and are able to optimise channel settings. But it depends on much factors.
    If you want to go for dlan I can recommend devolo or avm products. Never had the opportunity to test TP-link. Dlink has usually a bad patching support and make new "revision" all the time instead of patching. They lost all my reputation during the years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Micon
    I plan to use this store: http://www.dustinhome.no/page/4228/pc-komponenter/ Since we share a common language group, some things is similar. PSU is under "pc- komponenter" and "strřmforsyning". Then you choose wattage. after that you can click on "flere sřke kriterier" for more options. Also, "modulćre kabler" is modular.
    Thanks for your shop link, they do not have many AVM products. I propose the following in addition to post #1513:

    Alright just checked the named Gigabyte GPU. The specs look indeed great comparing the EVGA 760 SC. Only pick the EVGA if you wish a longer warranty (up to 10y)

    Mainboard with WiFi (works great):
    http://www.dustinhome.no/product/501...87-s-1150-atx/

    PSU:
    This one serves more than well enough for your rig. It has 40 A (480Watts) on the +12Volts, so more than any current GPU needs on earth, you could even do a GTX 770 SLI with that.
    more pictures: http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...tt::14324.html

    http://www.dustinhome.no/product/501...w-modular-psu/
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    Default Re: Build a PC for Rome 2 / Hardware Recommendations and Advice Thread

    You sure a 520w is enough? In one of my earlier post someone reccomended a 550w, and will I need a psu with higher wattage if I plan to do a mild oc? Also, is it compatible with the haswell cpu? And when it comes to the mobo, how much loss will a wifi connection give? I plan to play multiplayer games where a non stable connection can be bad.


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    Hi there it is plenty enough, your Haswell has a TDP of 88 Watts + 170 Watts for the GPU + 30 Watts for the mobo and some for the RAM
    efficiency is about 84% (80 plus bronze) so total 416 Watts, makes you having an overhead of 149 Watts!
    I cannot see a Haswell certification for this PSU, so I contact Seasonic itself to clear that, I think we will have an answer soon.

    The wifi speed and stability depends on your router and where it is placed. The Asus mainboard has a very good external antenna, better than the PCI-E cards as you can place the antenna more far from the case and have a better perfomance.

    If the answer of Seasonic is no here is another alternative
    http://www.dustinhome.no/product/501...-530w-modular/
    this PSU is officially certified by the vendor to support Haswell C6/C7 sleep state. The real vendor of the L7 series is HEC, which I personally know as a very reliable manufacture of PSUs since decades, just like Seasonic.
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    Default Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    I have an intel core2 quad Q8200 2.33 GHz, 6GB DDR2 RAM and a Radeon 7750 HD 1GB for GPU. I can play shogun 2 on high/ultra with no problems but I'm a little intimidated with Rome 2 after seeing the previews.

    Will my computer still be able to play Rome 2? I just need to know before I pre-order it.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    yez

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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    Welcome to thread number 500 of "Will my computer run Rome II"!!!!!!!

    Seriously there's a thread about this. Pretty sure it's stickied. But to answer yer question...if you can play Shogun II on ultra with no problems then you can certainly play Rome II.

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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    Yes you can.

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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    yes you can but you better think of upgrading your CPU(no rush)... had 1 like this for 2 years,its rly the only thing that stops your computer to be able output more...

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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by siregar0511 View Post
    I have an intel core2 quad Q8200 2.33 GHz, 6GB DDR2 RAM and a Radeon 7750 HD 1GB for GPU. I can play shogun 2 on high/ultra with no problems but I'm a little intimidated with Rome 2 after seeing the previews.

    Will my computer still be able to play Rome 2? I just need to know before I pre-order it.

    Thanks.
    Hello siregar, In your case I would like to know what budget you have and what coutry you are living, your fav store and the wattage of your PSU and other parts in your rig. I looked up the specs for your GPU and it is freaking slow. but unless you are not aware to OC your CPU (using stock cooler?) I do not see that upgrading would help you easily.

    I certainly to doubt that you play Shogun 2 on high or ultra. We had this discussion earlier here. Please submit a screenshot of your settings and run a "benchmark game settings"

    Quote Originally Posted by Xyloto View Post
    I have an Intel i3 3220 which i can upgrade to an i5 3350P and a AMD HD 7850 which i can upgrade to a Nvidia GTX 760. upgrading which one of the 2 is suggested to get the best performance. I can only afford 1 upgrade. Thanks.
    Hi Xyloto, I would definitely not upgrade the Graphics card even though the 760 is twice as fast as your 7850, your 7850 is not the part that is mainly limiting your game experience. Switching to the i5 you choosed would be a waste aswell as the i3 has a higher clocking. Consider an i5 3570k or nothing. But before that submit us the specs of your PSU please and your used mainboard chipset.

    To be fair I would first run Rome 2 and see how it works and then consider an upgrade of the processor.
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    Default Re: Can my CPU still play total war rome 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Hello siregar, In your case I would like to know what budget you have and what coutry you are living, your fav store and the wattage of your PSU and other parts in your rig. I looked up the specs for your GPU and it is freaking slow. but unless you are not aware to OC your CPU (using stock cooler?) I do not see that upgrading would help you easily.

    I certainly to doubt that you play Shogun 2 on high or ultra. We had this discussion earlier here. Please submit a screenshot of your settings and run a "benchmark game settings"



    Hi Xyloto, I would definitely not upgrade the Graphics card even though the 760 is twice as fast as your 7850, your 7850 is not the part that is mainly limiting your game experience. Switching to the i5 you choosed would be a waste aswell as the i3 has a higher clocking. Consider an i5 3570k or nothing. But before that submit us the specs of your PSU please and your used mainboard chipset.

    To be fair I would first run Rome 2 and see how it works and then consider an upgrade of the processor.
    Shogun 2 runs fine most of the time on ultra with aa turned down to 4x. Psu: XFX 550w pro. Motherboard: Asrock zh77 pro3. What about an 3470? Would that be a better choice? A 3570k + an overclocking setup would be very expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Hello siregar, In your case I would like to know what budget you have and what coutry you are living, your fav store and the wattage of your PSU and other parts in your rig. I looked up the specs for your GPU and it is freaking slow. but unless you are not aware to OC your CPU (using stock cooler?) I do not see that upgrading would help you easily.

    I certainly to doubt that you play Shogun 2 on high or ultra. We had this discussion earlier here. Please submit a screenshot of your settings and run a "benchmark game settings"
    I'm here in CT, USA. I benchmark 1080p at 30.5 FPS. I didn't put all the settings at Ultra but I'd say 50/50 some at ultra (sky, water, unit textures) and some at high (shadow, grass, etc) and no AA (I think, not sure). I'm only playing with medium unit size because honestly huge size just make the battles so confusing.

    Anyways, I'm at work now so can't post screenshot yet but I'd definitely do that when I get home. As for upgrade budget, I'm hoping $0 (no upgrade necessary, )

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    Well Samuel, my "section" of the house itself is quite old (prolly early 1800 ) The wiring was done sometime after 1990, so I dunno about how the wiring is. If I go with a powerline, how many mb can it reach if I have 12,3 mb download speed on the main destkop? And AlQamar, thank you very much, here, have some rep


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    I'm here to vouch for the Samsung 840 drives. They aren't slow at all, I think its a great SSD for the price, especially when you're looking at 250GB+. The speed is miles infront of any HDD as you could imagine, its just the consistency that isn't as strong compared to higher priced drives. You don't notice the speed difference between an 840 and 840 pro in normal use.
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    I don't know about samsung, but my vertex 4 works great

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    Samsung drives have been on top of the ladder for reliability and performance for a while now, you'd be insane to distrust them.

    Also, the Vertex 4 has been replaced by the 450, so I'd recommend that one over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    Samsung drives have been on top of the ladder for reliability and performance for a while now, you'd be insane to distrust them.

    Also, the Vertex 4 has been replaced by the 450, so I'd recommend that one over it.

    I need to clarify that urgent. Your stories has medals with 2 sides. The Samsung 120GB 840 is very slow! I bought one for my dad and the specs for writing speed are horrible for a SSD compared to their 840 pro series.

    If you want to go for OCZ you may want to choose the more recent models the Vortex and Vertex 4 450.
    both are fast as hell and faster than the older vertex 4. Both have newer chips so are much more compact (power saving and cooler aswell).

    The OCZ Vertex 450 come along with a free copy of Acronis True Image 2013 (costs about 30-40 € alone) and 5 years warranty.
    The OCZ Vertex 4 with 5 years warranty without that software.
    The OCZ Vortex is catching up their EOL series and has got Acronis True Image 2013 aswell as 3 years warranty.

    No doubt the Samsung 840 pro is a rival for OCZ and their latest software ssd magician (free to download) is really great.
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    Default Re: Build a PC for Rome 2 / Hardware Recommendations and Advice Thread

    I have an Intel i3 3220 which i can upgrade to an i5 3350P and a AMD HD 7850 which i can upgrade to a Nvidia GTX 760. upgrading which one of the 2 is suggested to get the best performance. I can only afford 1 upgrade. Thanks.

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    @ Xyloto - your CPU is last generation, and there isn't a point in upgrading your CPU to the same generational one. Get a Haswell CPU if anything.

    Your GPU is probably the most entry level gaming GPU on the market right now, so an upgrade might be worth it. You can either get a GTX 760, or wait for AMD's next series, which will go to 22nm architecture (28 is the smallest right now, from Nvidia and AMD), and that means more stuff packed into a smaller package, and more performance per watt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    @ Xyloto - your CPU is last generation, and there isn't a point in upgrading your CPU to the same generational one. Get a Haswell CPU if anything.

    Your GPU is probably the most entry level gaming GPU on the market right now, so an upgrade might be worth it. You can either get a GTX 760, or wait for AMD's next series, which will go to 22nm architecture (28 is the smallest right now, from Nvidia and AMD), and that means more stuff packed into a smaller package, and more performance per watt.
    But my CPU won't bottleneck if i buy a 760?

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