Build a PC for Rome 2 / Hardware Recommendations and Advice Thread

[Wismer]

alQamar: The initial post for this thread - would you say the list for the Great/Excellent setups are still (more or less) current? Newegg is starting to post decent enough discounts online that it's now feasible for me to upgrade/rebuild my computer.

[alQamar]

alQamar: The initial post for this thread - would you say the list for the Great/Excellent setups are still (more or less) current? Newegg is starting to post decent enough discounts online that it's now feasible for me to upgrade/rebuild my computer.

yes the inital post is basically still valid. However the prices are not up to date.

[craziii]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/c...tember-2013/10

this article is all you need for gaming cpus as of oct 2013. as rome 2 performance 100% depends on a good cpu, this article is a godsend. I always recommended intel cpus before, but it seems amd 8350 is one of the top end when it comes to gaming.

[Ansar Warrior]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/c...tember-2013/10

this article is all you need for gaming cpus as of oct 2013. as rome 2 performance 100% depends on a good cpu, this article is a godsend. I always recommended intel cpus before, but it seems amd 8350 is one of the top end when it comes to gaming.

Thanks for posting that.

I'm deciding atm whether to get an i5-4670 or an i7-4770 and can't make my mind up.

Can an i5-4670 play Rome TW II at Ultra/Extreme without OC'ing and still get good frames?

[Totalheadache]

ok have linked several threads re the 290's. caveat comptor atm...

http://www.overclock.net/f/67/amd-ati

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=383104

i personally avoided the 290 even though it's price v perf is great. i'll let u all know if the problems are fixed or how it all pans out.

[alQamar]

all I have heard about even about the 290/290X I came to the conclusion that technically the NVIDIA cards are still superior in case of performance, loudness and power draw .( my hopes for the 512bit memory bus which we hadn't for many years now failed to fulfill. The performance improvements in FPS are very negible.

[alQamar]

You will need to oc the cpu to minimise the heavy cpu bottleneck and it is safe to do with the K versions. And a non stock cooler like arctic freezer 13 or the cooler master from the OP.


*Just for Rome 2* an i5 is good enough. The i7 is only very very few faster. Oc abilities are same.
You need a Z87 board but it don't have to be expensive. Have a look in the OP again.

[Ansar Warrior]

You will need to oc the cpu to minimise the heavy cpu bottleneck and it is safe to do with the K versions. And a non stock cooler like arctic freezer 13 or the cooler master from the OP.


*Just for Rome 2* an i5 is good enough. The i7 is only very very few faster. Oc abilities are same.
You need a Z87 board but it don't have to be expensive. Have a look in the OP again.

Thanks, yeah that's what I'm looking to do and I have decided on the i5, cooler wise I'm getting a H60 so I should be good to get 4Ghz OC before it starts to get too hot but that'll be good enough.

[chris10]

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*Just for Rome 2* an i5 is good enough. The i7 is only very very few faster. Oc abilities are same.
You need a Z87 board but it don't have to be expensive. Have a look in the OP again.

well...you really need to say which one ...there is many different i7 from 2700K, 3820, 3770K, 4820K, 990Extreme, 3930K, 3960K, 3960X, 3970X, 4960X and between the 3820 and 7960X there is the tiny difference of 600,- €
and there is many i5 too...just sayin

I'm deciding atm whether to get an i5-4670 or an i7-4770 and can't make my mind up.
Can an i5-4670 play Rome TW II at Ultra/Extreme without OC'ing and still get good frames?

No..I dont think so...I run an i5
have a look here for prices and benchmark tests...its in german but ranking, performance and price are obvious...
http://www.chip.de/bestenlisten/Best.../index/id/693/

[alQamar]

well...you really need to say which one ...there is many different i7 from 2700K, 3820, 3770K, 4820K, 990Extreme, 3930K, 3960K, 3960X, 3970X, 4960X and between the 3820 and 7960X there is the tiny difference of 600,- €
and there is many i5 too...just sayin


No..I dont think so...I run an i5
have a look here for prices and benchmark tests...its in german but ranking, performance and price are obvious...
http://www.chip.de/bestenlisten/Best.../index/id/693/

it does not matter which i5 or i7 you have (regardless the OC potential and GHz it runs). And he stated to decide between a Haswell i5 and i7 so of course it was related
we already were able that there are only minor differences between all those stated cpus in regard of Shogun 2 and Rome 2 TW.

[alQamar]

Surely an air cooled solution is well enough. People often scared to get a CPU overheated because OC. This won't happen as they have a secure shutdown also in my very tiny case i have temps around 80° and this is not harming your CPU lifetime or performance. With the same cooler on a bigger case I would have reasonable 50-60°. Not only your saving money but any hassle with water leaks and sorts.

[Ansar Warrior]

Surely an air cooled solution is well enough. People often scared to get a CPU overheated because OC. This won't happen as they have a secure shutdown also in my very tiny case i have temps around 80° and this is not harming your CPU lifetime or performance. With the same cooler on a bigger case I would have reasonable 50-60°. Not only your saving money but any hassle with water leaks and sorts.

H60's won't leak, you could count the number of leakages on those things on one hand that have happened and that's usually from mistreatment.

If I thought there was any chance it would leak I wouldn't go near one but they have made good strides into insuring that doesn't happen provided its been handled properly.

I want a H60 because their tidy, long lasting and it'll clear space in my rig they also look really good and effectiveness wise their just as good as a Hyper 212 Evo if not a bit better which is all I really need for a 4Ghz OC on the i5.

I have a Cooler master n200 and if you google the pics of it you'll see what I mean, with a H60 its going to be a really clean/ spacious set up.

[alQamar]

I read about vaporised water and the need of refilling. Is there really nothing to maintenance on a water cooling?

[Ansar Warrior]

I read about vaporised water and the need of refilling. Is there really nothing to maintenance on a water cooling?

Nope its a closed loop system so there's nowhere for the water to vaporize to.

I don't know if they've got a life expiry or something but it should be good for 8-10 years, you'd have to check the recommendations but its got good reviews, soon these water coolers will be the norm imo.

Air coolers are going to be nigh on extinct in 5-7 years time I recon.

And on the CPU I've decided to go with the i5-4670k, though there is a difference with a slight favor to the i7 in some cases (lets be honest it is the better CPU here) its not really worth to me the extra £80 in cost on top of the z87 mobo I'm going to have to get.

When I realised I had to buy a z87 that pretty much settled it, I can't buy a H8 or anything because my Crucial Balistix Elite 8gb RAM operate at 1866mhz and for that speed the H8's etc don't support it, but in the bright side I get to to OC the i5 a bit, the H60 should be able to comfortably get it to 4ghz, that'll do for me.

[CrayonVonCaesar]

Evening.

How would this fare running Rome 2?

CPU: INTEL CORE 2 QUAD CPU Q9450
GPU: Nvidia 450 GTS 1GB
RAM: 6 GB
Windows 7

Thanks

[alQamar]

The computer should be able to run on medium setting gpu is the bigger of both bottlenecks here
Upgrade to a used 660ti would help

[CrayonVonCaesar]

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[CrayonVonCaesar]

The computer should be able to run on medium setting gpu is the bigger of both bottlenecks here
Upgrade to a used 660ti would help

Thanks for the info.

I just realised it is a 1.5GB version of the GTS 450, not 1 GB.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...50-oem-us.html

I could even overclock it a bit too.

Would this be significant in relation to Rome 2?

[alQamar]

Thanks for the info.

I just realised it is a 1.5GB version of the GTS 450, not 1 GB.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...50-oem-us.html

I could even overclock it a bit too.

Would this be significant in relation to Rome 2?

Not really. It has too low specs but please estimate performance with the current situation before any upgrade.

[hotpies3561]

I'm looking for a Laptop that can run Rome fairly well but not necessarily maxed out. Don't have a very large budget so would like to know what are the key things i should look for. Majority of what I've seen so far has Geforce 740m 8gb ram. Is that enough for reasonable play. Also should I go for a 4th or 3rd gen core i7 or i5. I know laptops aren't best for gaming but its other uses warrant portability. Some help would be greatly appreciated.