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    Icon1 Build a PC for Rome 2 / Hardware Recommendations and Advice Thread

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?678089
    come here to the Attila TW forum for advice unless it specifically regards Rome2
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    Default Re: Building a PC for Rome 2 tutorial

    there already is a special forum section for this

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    I will be getting a new pc prior to the release of Rome 2. A youtube video detailing the best builds at around the Ł800 mark would be useful for me. Don't mind reading either but youtube videos tend to be more engaging.

    Overall, I will be looking in here:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forum...8-The-Basement

    For advice. Also, seen this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCjxMG4OLdE

    The guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

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    Default Re: Building a PC for Rome 2 tutorial

    Maybe this thread should be moved to that forum then, but I thought I need to catch the attention of an audience outside of that forum, and more to the general public.

    @ Numidian Mercenary - that guy on YouTube is fairly knowledgeable, but there are a few things that I would call him wrong on/think is un-unnecessary. He also doesn't give much of an option, and the graphics card he chose IS NOT the best bang for the buck, no way. Also, that video if 4 months old, and believe it or not, but a fair bit has changed since then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    Maybe this thread should be moved to that forum then, but I thought I need to catch the attention of an audience outside of that forum, and more to the general public.

    @ Numidian Mercenary - that buy on YouTube is fairly knowledgeable, but there are a few things that I would call him wrong on/think is un-unnecessary. He also doesn't give much of an option, and the graphics card he chose IS NOT the best bang for the buck, no way. Also, that video if 4 months old, and believe it or not, but a fair bit has changed since then
    Haha, sure. However, to be frank, I wont be building a gaming pc until the end of summer 2013 at the earliest. So recommendations timed around then will be most useful for me personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleventum View Post
    We should wait for the official requirements before to buy a new computer............
    They already did say that the minimum is the same as Shogun 2, and that's all we need to know, the ABSOLUTE minimum to run it at

    Quote Originally Posted by Numidian Mercenary View Post
    Haha, sure. However, to be frank, I wont be building a gaming pc until the end of summer 2013 at the earliest. So recommendations timed around then will be most useful for me personally.
    Well I'll be happy to continuously update my videos and information. Would be nice to see how much has changed in that time. Also, I'm in Australia, and our Summer just ended I guess America's summer is 6 months away.

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    I can't vote because I don't have enough posts.

    I would vote for youtube videos but would also read written advice as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    Well I'll be happy to continuously update my videos and information. Would be nice to see how much has changed in that time. Also, I'm in Australia, and our Summer just ended I guess America's summer is 6 months away.
    That would be useful. I'm British so summer is June, July, August. Rome 2 is coming out in October so I plan to time my purchases not too far before then.

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    We should wait for the official requirements before to buy a new computer............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    Hey there guys,

    I've done a tone of research into computers, all the different components and what all the specs actually mean. I was wondering if people would like me to compile some tutorials on quickly understanding what all these parts do, how to choose ones right for what you do (and to play Rome 2 at the best you can with the budget you have), and how to build your PC.

    Would people be interested in me doing this? I'm fairly confident that you can play Rome 2 on medium settings with a PC under $600, and I help you pick the components of a PC anywhere from this price range, all the way up to extreme-enthusiast price range of $3000 + depending on your budget.

    I know what specs will be needed because CA said that their minimum requirements will be the same as Shogun 2, but the max settings will be more demanding.

    One more thing to say before you give your answer to my question; DO NOT BUY A PRE-BUILT PC! They are generally over priced for their parts (I promise you can make the same system with half the cash). DO NOT buy "high quality" pre-built PCs either, like Alienware, because all that pricing is pretty much for the custom case alone, it is far too expensive and you can get higher quality cases for half the money. It's just the branding, it's like buying some cheap sunglasses for $20, but as soon as you smack an Oakley label on it, the price changes to $200.

    Ok, so tell me if you guys would be interested in this. Building your own PC is very fun too, because it's 100% your own, and you know the system like the back of your hand.

    Also, would people prefer these tutorials as written posts, or as YouTube videos?

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    Default Re: Building a PC for Rome 2 tutorial

    Just a couple of typos, thanks for pointing them out.

    PS. In regards of PC components evolution from now until the release of Rome 2, there will be a few things that will not change in performance, but might only get a little cheaper, like graphics cards, hard drives (SSDs are going to quickly take over in the next few years). Intel and AMD will be releasing a new chip set soon enough, but those CPUs will offer only a small difference to Desktops, and are mainly focused on mobile platforms. Intel is also going to release their next enthusiast CPU set sometime this year (apparently Q3), but people should only consider waiting for this chip set if they're prepared to spend $3000 minimum on their PC.

    EDIT: So far there seems to be more interest in written form of these tutorials, but I suppose only 5 people have voted at the moment.
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    but people should only consider waiting for this chip set if they're prepared to spend $3000 minimum on their PC.
    Ehh 3k? the replacement for the now popular cpus will pretty much cost almost the same as the old ones, as they always do, hell its usually the outdated and older ones that are more expensive, 3570k's are cheaper than 2500k's right now.. a good gaming computer never has to cost more than 1200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adreno View Post
    Ehh 3k? the replacement for the now popular cpus will pretty much cost almost the same as the old ones, as they always do, hell its usually the outdated and older ones that are more expensive, 3570k's are cheaper than 2500k's right now.. a good gaming computer never has to cost more than 1200
    I was talking about the Enthusiast chip set, and not necessarily for gaming PCs. Obviously no one will need a 2011 chip set for gaming, it's primarily for the ultra-high end demanding programs, like video rendering, 2D art and 3D art (but only for people that are very serious about it). So yeah, a system costing 3k will not be gaming system, but a business/media one. I didn't recommend it for gaming at any point.

    Everyone should be getting the 1155 chip set, and look no further than the 3570K, best CPU on the market, period (not in everyone's budget though). i7s are for multimedia purposes too, not for gaming, but I guess you already know this, so I'm wasting my breath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenyi View Post
    I was talking about the Enthusiast chip set, and not necessarily for gaming PCs. Obviously no one will need a 2011 chip set for gaming, it's primarily for the ultra-high end demanding programs, like video rendering, 2D art and 3D art (but only for people that are very serious about it). So yeah, a system costing 3k will not be gaming system, but a business/media one. I didn't recommend it for gaming at any point.

    Everyone should be getting the 1155 chip set, and look no further than the 3570K, best CPU on the market, period (not in everyone's budget though). i7s are for multimedia purposes too, not for gaming, but I guess you already know this, so I'm wasting my breath
    I'm no hardware expert but I think some of your statements like this are not really very helpful for computer shoppers.

    People should be made to clearly understand that a new generation (called Haswell) of Intel CPU's is going to be released this June (rumored 2 June) which is only a few months away, and a full four months ahead of Rome II's release date. People who intend to purchase new hardware for Rome II therefore should not be getting the current Ivy Bridge CPU with the 1155 socket.

    Unless they prefer an AMD CPU, they should be waiting until June and then getting an Intel i5-4570K or the more expensive i7-4770K CPU. These forthcoming processors will run on a 1150 socket, which means the current generation socket 1155 socket motherboards or other motherboards will not work and they need to buy a new z87 Lynx Point chipset motherboard.

    Although we don't know exactly how good these new CPUs will be, they are expected to be more powerful than the current Ivy Bridge generation Intel Processors. They are also expected to be more energy efficient. They will almost certainly be priced in the same range as the current generation CPUs. Do not expect the current generation Intel CPU's to drop much in price, even after the Haswell CPU's are released.

    Therefore, if you are going to buy/build a new computer for Rome II, and you prefer Intel for Total War, like most of us here, it makes sense to WAIT until June at the earliest to do your build.

    If you wait a little bit longer you may even get to add a next-generation Nvidia graphics card to your build.
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    Price is subject to change and differs from country to country. Parts I buy in the USA will be a lot less costly than parts bought in Germany and those will yet be a lot cheaper than parts bought in let's say Belgium.

    OP is offering advice on different computer parts with an explanation of why picking on over the other or taking the best quality for its price at hand. He's not saying that you HAVE to spend 3000 dollars, nor is he saying that you have NOT to spend 3000 dollars. What he is stating though, is that one should never buy a ready-made pc. However, not only because they're overpriced, but also because they're less good. Pre-build pc's leave as good as no room for improvements or changes. Everything is puzzled in each other to their bare minimums. The PSU is often not strong enough and will fail out after a year or two. The MOBO's are usually not from a high standard and won't last that long either. Even though they might house a strong GPU, the lack of power and also cooling will often cause overheating issues or artifacts during gameplay.

    It's indeed better to custom build your own pc. You can build it exactly to your own needs at the price you've chosen. If someone is willing to spend 3000 dollars on a pc, that's entirely up to their own. What is important is not the price they spend it on, but the quality vs price they get. " a good gaming pc never has to cost more than 1200.." that's all subject to opinions. A good car never has to cost more than 10 000, yet people still buy some of over 300 000$ .. It's all a matter of what you want to do with it and how long you want it to last and, moreover, how good you want it to look like.

    Will that 3k pc be that much better? At current, probably no. Over time? Surely it will. Though, the good thing with a good custom-made pc is that you can always throw out some out-dated stuff, and fit some new in it without having to throw away every