How to use goblin halberdiers

[ChavKilla]

Started a campaign as OoTMM using MOS. Now the orcs only have 4 infantry units, so I feel compelled to use the halberdiers. Thing is your main enemy are the elves, halberdiers get annihilated by archers due to their slow movement speed.

I can see them being useful holding a bridge or city gate, but how does one use them in field battles, if at all?

[Mhaedros]

Maybe you shouldn't use them against elves if you know they'll get slaughtered?

[Flinn]

mmm never used OOTMM, but I suppose that, like other pike/halbred unit, they have spear wall formation..

if so, when moving around the map (and charging your enemies on the flank), just deactivate spear wall and your speed will be greately increased.

elves will pinch you anyway, but at least you'll be able to reach their line

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[SandraDevilGirl]

elves will pinch you anyway, but at least you'll be able to reach their line

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Haha, word...

[Flinn]

Haha, word...

my english is not so good.. what you meant exactly??

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[muller227]

I have not played OotMM since 1.4.1 but I do remember, the trick I had with Halbardiers. I hid them away for a good portion of the battle, I was I regret too say somewhat free with the lives of my snaga archers and skirmishers. I only brought them out when the Elven archers started drawing their swords after they ran out of arrows. I actually kept it a missile fight as long as possible. I just did not want to show them my only AP unit which they do seem target pretty well. Once Elves are out of arrows it levels the playing field somewhat. It is still hard for me to beat them though, especially if they have a lot of Eldar units.

[Vifarc]

, the trick I had with Halbardiers. I hid them away for a good portion of the battle. I only brought them out when the Elven archers started drawing their swords after they ran out of arrows. I actually kept it a missile fight as long as possible.

Very good strategy if in defense. If you attack, and even more with battletime limit, it will be hard for halbard to run to kill all elves..

[Faeldspr]

I'm currently playing a campaign as the High Elves. It's true that you can kill a lot of Orcs with just arrows, but I think the reason I succeed against many Orc attacks is because they have too few troops and just hang around with them. My advice would be to make sure you have a decent amount of soldiers and don't wait. The Elves will start firing as soon as they're in range, so you want to minimise the time that they are killing you but receiving no casualties themselves. Position your people as close to them as possible and just run. Also, the archers will probably have Skirmish Mode on, so another idea might be to attempt to flank or surround them to force them into melee.

[LuckyPistol]

I don't know if MOS has the halberdiers on less than normal speed, but check the script to change the speed of the unit to normal, there's a thread here that tells you how to do it

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-Halberd-units

That will make them normal speed since for some reason they made them moving at like .7 normal speed

But I really only use them for defense, as they clog up streets and gates very nicely, even challenging the lower tier dwarven units
Always turn off spearwall if you go on the offensive, as they have AP and their charges can be devastating to enemy flanks. I personally believe they do well against most cavalry if they get into a melee fight (as long as the cavalry doesn't charge their flanks or behind), and because of their ap and good numbers, they can be a very useful unit. Don't stock up on them though unless you're planning to defend a settlement. Besides, by the time you get the High Tier goblin units as OotMM, you should be rolling in enough cash to make the Heavy Goblin Infantry your main unit.

[knight of meh]

they should do well against mounted units they have bonus's against horses and camels ... don't they *quick look at the EDU*

horse +5, camel +5 they do...

[ChavKilla]

Thanks pistol and knight, good advice/points both. Think I'll use them for defending settlements and perhaps as a 2nd line assault unit, in the same way you'd use generic 2-handers

[LuckyPistol]

Ahhh they do have bonuses against cavalry, I don't recall their description mentioning that

Then it might be a good idea to have more than a few around if going agaisnt Rohan and Gondor

[Ngugi]

Any day, they have both a great cavalry bonus and Armour Piercing

[Ngugi]

"Word" as in "You said the true words", in this case

Quite a flexible word (pun not intended)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=word

[Flinn]

"Word" as in "You said the true words", in this case

Quite a flexible word (pun not intended)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=word

ah thanks, I imagined, but was not sure

anyway, the example fits me very well

"Yo, I ****ed twelve ******* last night."
"Word?" ("You speak the truth?")
"Word." ("I speak the truth.")"