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    Default rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    This something importante that CA no anounce how many cores R2 will use ?

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Its based on the Warscape engine (same as Empire and Shogun 2), so i wouldnt expect much.
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Probably 1, just like shogun 2.

    According to CA, Core 0 = 100% and Core 1,2,3 = 15-20% means the game has multicore support and they're right, but they've refused to comment on the optimization of multicore support.

    Even if they were forced to comment, it's likely they'll say the same thing they do with 64-bit support. "According to steam 25-30% of users use 32-bit so no 64-bit for you guys." 5% of users use 1 core cpus so no optimization for you guys.

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    I think I've heard that they are going to make it multicore because that's what's needed to be able to run Rome II properly.

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Probably 4. If optimized, need only 2

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by xjlxking View Post
    Probably 4. If optimized, need only 2
    Extremely doubtful that it'll support 4 cores. Probably 2, but that'll be it (same as Shogun 2).

    Shogun 2 was extremely UNoptimized for multicore support (big thread on the official forum on that). And unless they rewrite the entire code (which they for obvious reasons wont be doing), Rome 2 is not likely to have many (if any) improvements in that regard.
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Even if they announce something it's always best to wait and see,i.e. don't pre-order hoping for something you think they promised. Trust none of the pre-release hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huberto View Post
    Even if they announce something it's always best to wait and see,i.e. don't pre-order hoping for something you think they promised. Trust none of the pre-release hype.
    I believe you recently got your hands on a game which by now has become a pretty notorious example of why one should follow your advice ^^ (Yep it has some nasty black critters in it )
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PlacidDragon View Post
    Extremely doubtful that it'll support 4 cores. Probably 2, but that'll be it (same as Shogun 2).

    Shogun 2 was extremely UNoptimized for multicore support (big thread on the official forum on that). And unless they rewrite the entire code (which they for obvious reasons wont be doing), Rome 2 is not likely to have many (if any) improvements in that regard.
    I may be mistaken but someone at CA mentions that multicore is used for battles in Shogun 2. While Rome II still use Warscape as a base the graphic engine is being updated and there's possibility need some re0writes too. I'm sure in Rome II we can control 40 units in battle since it works great in FOTS and has been retrofitt to Shogun 2 so some thoughts must be done when planning the game.

    During Empire developement which is the first Warscape multicore pc wasn't the norm yet but now I don't think there's many Total War gamers who still uses single core pc, unless they're still playing old Shogun and Rome.


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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    I may be mistaken but someone at CA mentions that multicore is used for battles in Shogun 2. While Rome II still use Warscape as a base the graphic engine is being updated and there's possibility need some re0writes too. I'm sure in Rome II we can control 40 units in battle since it works great in FOTS and has been retrofitt to Shogun 2 so some thoughts must be done when planning the game.
    Yes, Shogun 2 uses 2 cores, but apparently not very efficiently (no hyperthreading, etc), to the point where (single) core speed is the only major factor.

    So in terms of the OP's question, unless they rewrite the Warscape engine, R2 will really only be optimized for 1 core.

    As you say though, FOTS worked very well, and hopefully R2 will follow suit
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    I hope theres some improvement, as it is with shadows being primarily cpu based going anywhere near ultra in big battles always causes stuttering for me with an i7 at 3 Ghz in Shogun. This can definitely be optimized further.

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    hopefully 2. because that's all I got

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    I hope it uses more than one core.. it would suck major nuts if it didn't. I mean its 2013, get with the program CA!

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    It would be a bit of a disgrace if the game doesn't at least support dual core! I mean how long have quad core CPUs been around for now, and a lot of games don't even support dual core!
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Disable three cores. Run Shogun 2. Post results

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by myaku View Post
    Disable three cores. Run Shogun 2. Post results
    Someone has already done that

    Short outtake :

    4 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    2 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    1 core:
    load time:.......78 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.0 fps

    Conclusion:
    Shogun 2 utilizes 2 cores at best. There is also only any noticeable effect for the level load times (5% improvement from 1 to 2 cores) but essentially none for the framerates during gameplay. Maybe it also affects turn times in the campaign but that wasn't tested.
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PlacidDragon View Post
    Someone has already done that

    Short outtake :

    4 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    2 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    1 core:
    load time:.......78 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.0 fps

    Conclusion:
    Shogun 2 utilizes 2 cores at best. There is also only any noticeable effect for the level load times (5% improvement from 1 to 2 cores) but essentially none for the framerates during gameplay. Maybe it also affects turn times in the campaign but that wasn't tested.
    Thank you for quoting my work , but that's outdated. Please refer the new situation tested. Shogun 2, and so will Rome 2 , does utilise 4 cores now but not very efficiently.

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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    Thank you for quoting my work , but that's outdated. Please refer the new situation tested. Shogun 2, and so will Rome 2 , does utilise 4 cores now but not very efficiently.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post13057026
    Thanx for the update
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by PlacidDragon View Post
    Someone has already done that

    Short outtake :

    4 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    2 cores:
    load time:.......74 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.25 fps

    1 core:
    load time:.......78 seconds
    benchmark:.....43.0 fps

    Conclusion:
    Shogun 2 utilizes 2 cores at best. There is also only any noticeable effect for the level load times (5% improvement from 1 to 2 cores) but essentially none for the framerates during gameplay. Maybe it also affects turn times in the campaign but that wasn't tested.
    Ofc it will utilize 2 cores at best. Shogun 2 itself use only 1 core. The reason why it runs faster with 2 cores is because it will use a core dedicated for the game instead of having 1 core that are running Windows + other programs and Shogun 2.
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    Default Re: rome 2 will be optimized to how many cpu cores ?

    Quote Originally Posted by betto View Post
    This something importante that CA no anounce how many cores R2 will use ?
    It will be optimized for 32 bit and single core.

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