How can I make a unified Roman faction?

[JStavCR]

I've managed to remove the senate, and making Rome the capital of the Julii(although without an army garrisoned inside).But, when I tried to give the Scipii and Brutii cities to the Julii the game would not start(CTD or the campaign didn't start).All I managed to do finally was to remove the walls from their cities and give them just one or two units of velites or arcers, so that they can be conquered within a few turns.Any suggestions?

[Kaweh]

You have to remove "Brutii" "Scipii" and "Senate" from the faction list on top of the file. Then you give all their cities to the Julii.

K.K

[vikrant]

u can find a patch in download section which will make rome unified

[JStavCR]

Thanks.

[JStavCR]

Do I have to delete also their entries in the file?I mean family members, army, faction relationsips etc?And, will this also work for the mundus magnus map?

[The Lacedaemonian]

no.
and yes.

[JStavCR]

Nope......the campaign will not start.....I removed the scipii, brutii and senate from the playable/nonplayable section and gave their cities to the julii.I didn't change anything else...here's what I' ve done (it's for the mundus magnus campaign) if anyone has an idea....

campaign mundus_magnus
playable
romans_julii

parthia
egypt
seleucid
carthage
gauls
germans
britons
greek_cities
macedon
pontus
armenia
dacia
scythia
spain
thrace
numidia

end
unlockable
end
nonplayable

slave
end


start_date -270 summer
end_date 14 summer

night_battles_enabled

(I don't include the resources section since I have not changed it)

faction romans_julii, comfortable caesar

denari 5000

settlement
{
level city
region Latium

year_founded 0
population 7500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type core_building governors_palace
}
building
{
type defenses stone_wall
}
building
{
type amphitheatres stone_amphitheatre
}
building
{
type barracks city_barracks
}
building
{
type missiles practice_field
}
building
{
type smith blacksmith
}
building
{
type market forum
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms+2
}
}


settlement
{
level large_town
region Calabria

year_founded 0
population 4500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type equestrian stables
}
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type port_buildings port
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Apulia

year_founded 0
population 2800
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Campania

year_founded 0
population 4800
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks militia_barracks
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms+1
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Bruttium

year_founded 0
population 4300
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Etruria

year_founded 0
population 4000
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks militia_barracks
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type port_buildings port
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Umbria

year_founded 0
population 3500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, age 47, , x 89, y 138
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries aged_retainer
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Lucius Julius, named character, heir, age 31, , x 91, y 136
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 3 , Energetic 2
ancillaries freeman_clerk
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Quintus Julius, named character, age 29, , x 96, y 138
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , GoodAttacker 1 , Energetic 1
ancillaries drillmaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Vibius Julius, named character, age 28, , x 88, y 137
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , MathematicsSkill 1
ancillaries merchant
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Oppius Clausus, admiral, age 29, , x 86, y 134
army
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Sextus Antio, diplomat, age 29, , x 93, y 134
traits GoodDiplomat 3

character Decius Curtius, spy, age 29, , x 95, y 139
traits GoodSpy 4

character_record Amulius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Manius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Decius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Marcus Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Faustina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Poppaea, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Alypia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Claudia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Fadia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader

relative Flavius Julius, Faustina, Lucius Julius, Quintus Julius, Vibius Julius, end
relative Lucius Julius, Poppaea, Fadia, Decius Julius, Marcus Julius, end
relative Quintus Julius, Alypia, Amulius Julius, end
relative Vibius Julius, Claudia, Manius Julius, end


faction romans_brutii, balanced stalin

denari 5000


character Tiberius Brutus, named character, leader, age 52, , x 108, y 125
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries drillmaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Aulus Brutus, named character, heir, age 34, , x 111, y 122
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Rabblerouser 2 , GoodAdministrator 2
ancillaries quartermaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Marcus Attius, admiral, age 29, , x 107, y 129
army
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Luca Antonius, spy, age 23, , x 109, y 127
traits GoodSpy 4

character Caius Flaminius, diplomat, age 23, , x 112, y 119
traits GoodDiplomat 3

character Amulius Brutus, named character, age 31, , x 103, y 128
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 2
ancillaries doctor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman light cavalry exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Vibius Brutus, named character, age 30, , x 114, y 119
traits GoodCommander 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 2 , MathematicsSkill 2
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character_record Cassius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Titus Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Cornelius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Oppius Brutus, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Galla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Hostia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lucilla, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Paulina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 12, alive, never_a_leader

relative Tiberius Brutus, Galla, Aulus Brutus, Amulius Brutus, Vibius Brutus, end
relative Aulus Brutus, Hostia, Paulina, Titus Brutus, Oppius Brutus, end
relative Amulius Brutus, Lucilla, Cassius Brutus, Cornelius Brutus, end


faction romans_scipii, bureaucrat napoleon

denari 5000


character Cornelius Scipio, named character, leader, age 54, , x 105, y 118
traits GoodCommander 2 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Austere 1 , GoodInfantryGeneral 1
ancillaries aged_retainer
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Julianus Scipio, named character, heir, age 36, , x 102, y 124
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , PoliticsSkill 1 , GoodRiskyAttacker 1
ancillaries drillmaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Quintus Scipio, named character, age 35, , x 114, y 113
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 1 , Generous 1
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Quintus Caecus, diplomat, age 26, , x 103, y 123
traits GoodDiplomat 2

character Aulus Ovidius, spy, age 20, , x 110, y 111
traits GoodSpy 3

character Aulus Volesus, admiral, age 22, , x 106, y 114
army
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Gaius Scipio, named character, age 29, , x 106, y 121
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , PoliticsSkill 1 , Intelligent 1 , Generous 1 , AuthoritarianRomanVirtue 2
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character_record Aulus Scipio, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 14, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Flavius Scipio, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 11, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lucius Scipio, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 8, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Publius Scipio, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 2, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Metella, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 52, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Antistia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Crispina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Placidia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 6, alive, never_a_leader

relative Cornelius Scipio, Metella, Julianus Scipio, Quintus Scipio, Gaius Scipio, Aulus Scipio, end
relative Julianus Scipio, Antistia, Flavius Scipio, Lucius Scipio, end
relative Quintus Scipio, Crispina, Placidia, Publius Scipio, end


faction romans_senate, comfortable napoleon
denari 5000


character Decius Maxentius, named character, leader, age 60, , x 95, y 127
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries doctor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman hastati exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman princeps exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman princeps exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman velite exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman velite exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman triarii exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3

character Marcus Maxentius, named character, heir, age 30, , x 93, y 129
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries bodyguard
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman velite exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman hastati exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3

character Servius Maxentius, named character, age 36, , x 94, y 125
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , PublicFaith 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries scribe_ancillary
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman hastati exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman princeps exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3
unit roman triarii exp 7 armour 3 weapon_lvl 3

character Flavius Nepos, diplomat, age 30, , x 96, y 125
traits GoodDiplomat 5

character_record Gaius Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 11, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lentulus Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Publius Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Honoria, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Licinia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Marciana, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 34, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Papiria, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 5, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Prisca, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 19, alive, never_a_leader

relative Decius Maxentius, Honoria, Servius Maxentius, Marcus Maxentius, Prisca, end
relative Marcus Maxentius, Licinia, Publius Maxentius, Gaius Maxentius, end
relative Servius Maxentius, Marciana, Lentulus Maxentius, Papiria, end


the rest of the file is not modified.

[The Lacedaemonian]

use the -show_err in your command line so it will tell you the problem.

[repman]

unifiedrome:
- file descr_strat.txt
Delete the faction sections of the brutii and scipii, delete their entries in the diplomatic section at the end of the file
- file descr_regions.txt
change the settings for the scipiis and brutiis

repman

[JStavCR]

The campaign loads now, but when the loading is complete it will CTD...
and there is no reference in the descr_regions (for the mundus magnus) of the scipii or brutii...

[The Lacedaemonian]

that's becuase in mm the Romans are unified i think.

[JStavCR]

No, at least for the version I have(for 1,3 and 1,5) they are just like in the imperial campaign(allied, the senate giving orders etc).

[The Lacedaemonian]

well if you download mmv3 it has a unified rome.

[JStavCR]

That's the version I have too....there's nothing about a unified rome in the .zip, the brutii, scipii and senate are there...

[PatWest]

If you completly remove a faction you need to remove the references to the faction culture from descr_regions. If you're still having trouble let me know and I'll send you an example or review your entire strat and regions file for discrepancies. I went through all this for the Barebones map by IceTorque. Their is also a unified rome for MM by Orbital in the download section but it was for ver 1 or 2. It might still work though. I used that one for my mod also, before I switched.

[JStavCR]

Where exactly in the descr_regions is any reference to the other roman factions?Can you give me an example?
Here's the descr_regions and descr_strat files.

[PatWest]

Where exactly in the descr_regions is any reference to the other roman factions?Can you give me an example?
Here's the descr_regions and descr_strat files.

The whole end of this file looks bad, it's just a continuance of these

romans_julii

0 0 0
none
5
8

romans_julii

0 0 0
none
5
8

That doesn't look good, but you're correct about there not being any brutii, scipii or senate culture tags in descr_regions.

You have a stray F at the end of the Julii section in your strat file but otherwise it seems ok.

relative Flavius Julius, Faustina, Lucius Julius, Quintus Julius, Vibius Julius, end
relative Lucius Julius, Poppaea, Fadia, Decius Julius, Marcus Julius, end
relative Quintus Julius, Alypia, Amulius Julius, end
relative Vibius Julius, Claudia, Manius Julius, end


f

Fix those and see if it works. You are deleting map.rwm I assume.

This is the link to Orbital's unified rome for MM RTW 1.2 it might give you an example at least. I know it worked on this version because I used it before.

http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=485