Would you change your favorite films?

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    Eric said:

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    If you could, would you change your favorite films in any way?

    I'd only make slight alterations to the Lord of the Rings trilogy to make it closer to Tolkien's vision of Middle-Earth, the only scene i'd really redo would be the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Here's how I see it. First of all, when Faramir comes retreating across the Plains, he is pursued by the lead elements of Sauron's army, along with the Ringwraiths. Instead of Gandalf alone sallying forth from Minas Tirith, Gandalf along with the Swan Knights lead by Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth, a cool character who was in the book but sadly omitted in the film charge out of the gates, sweeping away the pursuing orcs and scaring off the Nazgul, then retreating back into the city along with Faramir's force, but Faramir would be wounded, as in book. Thus we get rid of the pointless charge of Faramir's little army which is completely aTolkien addition. With this covered, we move on to the battle proper, as the Orcs begin their big assault, i'd give the men more credit, showing the Gondorrim (which just sounds better than "Gondorians") killing more Orcs than in PJ's original version, so many times the "Might of Gondor" is praised in the films, why not show that might in the discipline and training of the Gondorrim warriors. Now the battle progresses, with heavy casualties being inflicted on the Orcs, but Sauron's army gradually pushing the Men of Gondor back. After that long sequence, we come to Grond, now the great ram breaks down the gate as normal, but instead of Trolls, the Witch-King rides in, behind him, but still outside Minas Tirith, are the hordes of the Orcs. Gandalf comes forward, and he and the Witch-King have their little exchange, as the battle is about to begin, we hear a cock crowing, and the dawn coming. And with the dawn, the Rohirrim army charges up over the hill, Theoden's speech being given earlier in the film during a sequence in the Druadan Forest, like in the book. The Rohirrim charge down the hill and sweep into the flank of the Orcish army. Now we cut to a scene in the Minas Tirith after the Witch-King flies away. Imrahil comes before the Gondor army and gives some sort of speech, something like
    "Look Men of Gondor, Rohan rides to our aide, let us not let Theoden-King fight alone. Forward for the White City"
    Then with a great warcry, the Gondorrim charge forward out of the gate. We cut to an Orc who had been watching the Rohirrim turn his head, right before the Gondorrim cut through the Orcs with their mighty charge. We cut to a pair of Gondor spearmen attacking a troll, the troll falls down and one of the spearmen jumps up on the troll's chest and skewers the beast through the throat. After a sequence of fighting scenes with the main characters (Eomer, Theoden, Gandalf, Imrahil and Eowyn and Merry), we have the Witch-King attack sequence and fight with Eoywn, just as it normally went, but instead of "I am no man" Eowyn would say her lines from the book, which were damn near Shakespearean, and would do so before the fight, which was a lot more dramatic in my opinion. After the Witch-King sequence, we have the Black Ships coming up the river, but instead of the Army of the Dead, we get Aragorn, the Dunadain, Elrond's Sons along with Gondor's Southern Army. After this, we have another Action Sequence, and then we get the Orcs retreating. As Aragorn and Eomer meet on the battlefield, we see Sauron's reserves (with the Mumakil) coming up, along with the rallied main force. Both armies charge, and meet in the middle of the Fields with a great clash. As the mighty hosts begin their epic battle, we fade to black, occasionally we refade in to slow motion shots of the main characters and the orcs fighting, we get about 5 of those, and then one long slow-mo shot of the entire battle raging.

    And that's how i'd do the Battle of the Pelennor Fields
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  2. Mathias said:

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    Id do the battle after the book. I dont know if thats what you did in your long post since I didnt read all of it
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    Yeah that's basically what I did, change it to make it more like the book version. As for music, most of the music from Howard Shore was very good, i'd just encourage him to take a bit more influence from Celtic, Classical and Romantic pieces paticularily from the works of Wagner, Tchaikovsky, and Beethoven. I'd also use more a lot more vocalists, if you watch this trailer of Fellowship of the Ring you get an idea of the sort of vocalization in conjunction with symphony music i'd like to hear more of during the films. Maybe use some Great Highland Bagpipes as well, bagpipe music can be very fitting and sound quite mystical if used correctly.
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    in Gladiator, at the end when Juba buries the figures, he should stick the Proximo's rudius where he buried the dolls. or bury the rudius with the figures. in the colloseum instead of a 1 on 1 battle another team battle perhaps.

    in Alexander add a scene of Chronea before jumping in to (adult) Alexander. perhaps before Gaugemala, Tyre? after Hydaspes Alexander goes practiclly alone into Malta and gets severly wounded instead of at Hydaspes.

    in Braveheart add the bridge at Stirling. the battle with Edward 1 should be longer.

    Kingdom of Heaven slow down Balian's story. longer battles and maybe show Hattin.

    Troy better story and acting. and that battle at daybreak should be longer.
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    I wouldn't touch my favorite film with a 10ft barge pole. Apocalypse Now is so bizzarely perfect that to change it at all would ruin its surreal brilliance.
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