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    KOSOVSKA MITROVICA -- A 9-year-old Serb girl and her 3-year-old brother were injured on Monday in Kosovska Mitrovica, when an explosive device was thrown through their window.


    One of the injured children is seen with his mother in the K. Mitrovica hospital (Tanjug)

    According to reports, "an unidentified individual threw an explosive device at a Serb house in the Bosniak (Bošnjačka) Mahala neighborhood".
    The children are not in a critical condition and were hospitalized in the Kosovska Mitrovica healthcare center sometime around 19:00 CET.

    “We hospitalized two children suffering from injuries inflicted by an explosive device thrown in through the window of their family home. They suffered shrapnel injuries to their heads and necks and are out of mortal danger for now,” doctors told reporters in the local healthcare center.

    “We are considering their transport to a specialised children's clinic in Belgrade for additional treatment because of the possibility of their wounds getting further aggravated. The injuries were inflicted to the area of cheek and neck and such wounds can be dangerous, which is we are discussing potential transfer,” the doctors said.

    The explosive device was thrown at the house of Sneža and Steva Vučetić in the Bosniak Mahala, one of the mixed quarters in Kosovska Mitrovica which is a home to both Serbs and ethnic Albanians.

    The police performed preliminary investigation at the scene. This is the second bomb attack in northern, mostly-Serb part of the ethnically divided town in as many days. The first incident late on Sunday did not cause any injuries.

    Kosovska Mitrovica Mayor and Deputy Director of the Government Office for Kosovo and Metohija Krstimir Pantić reacted in a strongly worded statement, calling on the local Serbs to end all communication with NATO and EU missions, KFOR and EULEX, and referred to them as "the occupying forces".

    "This terrorist attack reveals that the international community stands behind it - KFOR and EULEX. The greatest responsibility is with the commander of KFOR and the EULEX mission chief, without whose knowledge and consent this terrorist attack would not have taken place," Pantić stated.

    In Belgrade, Kosovo Office Director Aleksandar Vulin spoke for B92 to say that he had asked the international community representatives in Kosovo to urgently state their position on the bomb attack, and find the perpetrators:

    "How can you not condemn an act of violence that targeted a three-year-boy and his nine-year-old sister? We do not know who did this. But from the family's history we see that their only sin is that they are Serbs. They have not upset anyone in any other way."

    Vulin also urged "the international community" to react and "stop treating Serbs as second-rate citizens".

    Serbian PM Ivica Dačić also reacted, saying that he condemned the incident in the strongest terms, and stressing that it was the international forces who had the obligation to guarantee security for everyone.

    "This, and similar attacks are jeopardizing peace in Kosovo and Metohija, to which Serbia is utterly dedicated, and the international forces should contribute so that this peace is maintained and safety of all who live in Kosovo and Metohija secured."

    The prime minister also demanded that the perpetrators be discovered, and asserted that "this and other events of this kind are making the Belgrade-Priština dialogue more difficult".

    Kosovska Mitrovica District chief Radenko Nedeljković said that the incident was aimed at intimidating and ethnically cleansing Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija, and added:

    "This should be a message to official Belgrade and the negotiating team: presidents of the state and government, and the chief technical talks negotiator should all be aware who it is that they are negotiating with, and what is actually happening here."

    The Priština government's administrative office in northern Kosovska Mitrovica also on Sunday condemned the attack.
    So,as the remaining Serb's presence in Kosovo continues to be threatened day by day,the international community is still supporting this terrorist regime in Pristina,and is increasing pressure on Belgrade to recognize it.What should the Kosovo Serbs do ?They cannot expect strong support from Belgrade anymore,since their own country is pressured upon to improve relations with Pristina.They cannot even organize a resistance since it would probably be condemned as yet another vile act of the "Serbian nationalism".It seems they can only wait until even the last trace of their presence,and Serbian civilization gets burned to the ground by the "freedom loving people" NATO supported with an aggression on a sovereign country.

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    Here we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    Here we go.
    Here we go? Two children were wounded in a place that is very close to being a warzone again, and all we get is a "here we go"..... right. But we are supposed to sympathise when that US SEAL animal got shot in the range, right? Double standards maybe? I dunno, maybe dead paid american murderers/mercenaries is something to be sad about, but the life of two underage Serbians endangered.... eh, no biggie, "here we go again". Right? RIIIIIIIGHT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    And when are you going to understand Serbs in Kosovo don't want to be part of an artificial mafia state that is working on their extinction ?

    When are you going to get over the fact that Serbs in Republika Srpska don't want to be part of Bosnia ?

    See,it works as well even if you switch the sides.

    But yeah,instead of condemning this vile attack against innocent children,you talk about self-determination.

    Classic.
    ing spare us, lay off the strawman for a second and actually argue with the points people are making. There isn't anyone supporting the independence of Kosovo who wants the Serbian minority in to remain in the state. And if anybody does truly believe that they can announce it right now, and you can go nuts over it.

    On the other hand, during my 4 years on this forum I haven't heard a single proper argument for why Kosovo should be annexed by Serbia. Not one. So please, stop with the BS rhetoric and the evading, and answer this question: Why should Kosovo be part of Serbia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    On the other hand, during my 4 years on this forum I haven't heard a single proper argument for why Kosovo should be annexed by Serbia. Not one. So please, stop with the BS rhetoric and the evading, and answer this question and end it here: Why should Kosovo be part of Serbia?
    Maybe you mixed up this thread with something else,or you got too excited,but let me ask you:

    Where the hell did i mention in this thread that Kosovo and Metohija should be annexed by Serbia ?

    @Vanoi
    Oh i agree. The Serb-majority areas should be given back to Serbia, but why do it, when that country does not recognize the independence of Kosovo?
    Wut ?What kind of a ed up logic is that ?

    Source?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War


    Well i have to. You s,e you started this thread solely to rant on Kosovo and how their terrorists and how its a mafia state ect. You don't care for those children. This thread is just a place to vent your anger against Kosovo and nothing more.
    Yeah right,because dedicating a thread about these two children on a public international forum is "not caring". Because spending time in the Serb enclaves in Kosovo is "not caring"?

    Wait,are you suggesting that you care about the Serb people in Kosovo more than me ?You who even refused to comment about this crime,and have concentrated on derailing this thread from the start ?


    Oh, and since you did mention the Republic of Srpska, i'm curious why you don't make any threads about them? You love making threads about how the Serbs in Kosovo are being mis-treated and attacked, but i never see you post threads about the non-Serb population in the Republic Of Srpska being discirminated against, attacked, or the appalling conditions some have to live because of the treatment they are receiving by the Serbs?
    I have used RS and Bosnia just as an example of how one sided your view is,I don't want this thread turning into "ZOMG SERBS DID SREBRENICA GENOZIDE".But I must laugh at your "knowledge" of the Bosnian situation,if you think that non-Serbs in Republika Srpska are treated like Serbs in Kosovo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    @VanoiWut ?What kind of a ed up logic is that ?
    If i was Kosovo, why should i give Serbia the land with a Serb majority when Serbia does not recognize my country? Why should Kosovo recognize the claims of Serbia, when Serbia does not recognize Kosovo?

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino;12549071[URL
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War[/URL]
    Thats not what i was asking for. I want a source for the current times please.

    Oh, and please, lets not turn this thread into a Bosnian War thread. We obviously have differing views on the war.


    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    Yeah right,because dedicating a thread about these two children on a public international forum is "not caring". Because spending time in the Serb enclaves in Kosovo is "not caring"?
    Its pretty obvious to anyone who reads your OP what this thread is honestly about. This is just another thread by you ranting against Kosovo once again.

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    Wait,are you suggesting that you care about the Serb people in Kosovo more than me ?You who even refused to comment about this crime,and have concentrated on derailing this thread from the start ?
    No, i am saying you don't care, and this is just a thread for you to rant about Kosovo.


    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    I have used RS and Bosnia just as an example of how one sided your view is,
    While ignoring the fact the situation in RS and Bosnia is no where near the same as Kosovo.

    I don't want this thread to turn into a debate on the Bosnian War. If i wanted to hear your opinion about how the Serbs were just innocent victims in the war, and how its all the West's fault, then i'd debate with you. But I would like to limit this thread to Kosovo.

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    I don't want this thread turning into "ZOMG SERBS DID SREBRENICA GENOZIDE"
    Really? Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    But I must laugh at your "knowledge" of the Bosnian situation,if you think that non-Serbs in Republika Srpska are treated like Serbs in Kosovo.
    I posted a few quotes above about the situation there. does it just hurt your ethnic pride too much to admit your countrymen are doing something wrong? Or is it just hypocrisy?

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    Ok,so you refuse to answer my post and continue to derail the thread by talking about Bosnia and bashing the Bosnian Serbs which hasn't got anything to do whatsoever with the incident from the OP?

    That's shameful behavior to say the least.Shameful but not surprising.
    You were the first one to mention Bosnia, not me. Also, i take my time when i post. Learn to be more patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics...5&nav_id=84519

    So,as the remaining Serb's presence in Kosovo continues to be threatened day by day,the international community is still supporting this terrorist regime in Pristina,and is increasing pressure on Belgrade to recognize it.What should the Kosovo Serbs do ?They cannot expect strong support from Belgrade anymore,since their own country is pressured upon to improve relations with Pristina.They cannot even organize a resistance since it would probably be condemned as yet another vile act of the "Serbian nationalism".It seems they can only wait until even the last trace of their presence,and Serbian civilization gets burned to the ground by the "freedom loving people" NATO supported with an aggression on a sovereign country.
    Are you Serbs never going to get over the fact that the people of Kosovo do not want to be apart of your country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Are you Serbs never going to get over the fact that the people of Kosovo do not want to be apart of your country?
    And when are you going to understand Serbs in Kosovo don't want to be part of an artificial mafia state that is working on their extinction ?

    When are you going to get over the fact that Serbs in Republika Srpska don't want to be part of Bosnia ?

    See,it works as well even if you switch the sides.

    But yeah,instead of condemning this vile attack against innocent children,you talk about self-determination.

    Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    And when are you going to understand Serbs in Kosovo don't want to be part of an artificial mafia state that is working on their extinction ?
    Oh i agree. The Serb-majority areas should be given back to Serbia, but why do it, when that country does not recognize the independence of Kosovo?

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    When are you going to get over the fact that Serbs in Republika Srpska don't want to be part of Bosnia ?
    Source?

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    But yeah,instead of condemning this vile attack against innocent children,you talk about self-determination.

    Classic.
    Well i have to. You s,e you started this thread solely to rant on Kosovo and how their terrorists and how its a mafia state ect. You don't care for those children. This thread is just a place to vent your anger against Kosovo and nothing more.


    Oh, and since you did mention the Republic of Srpska, i'm curious why you don't make any threads about them? You love making threads about how the Serbs in Kosovo are being mis-treated and attacked, but i never see you post threads about the non-Serb population in the Republic Of Srpska being discirminated against, attacked, or the appalling conditions some have to live because of the treatment they are receiving by the Serbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Well i have to. You s,e you started this thread solely to rant on Kosovo and how their terrorists and how its a mafia state ect. You don't care for those children. This thread is just a place to vent your anger against Kosovo and nothing more.
    You are such a good psychologist. Teach me, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Oh, and since you did mention the Republic of Srpska, i'm curious why you don't make any threads about them? You love making threads about how the Serbs in Kosovo are being mis-treated and attacked, but i never see you post threads about the non-Serb population in the Republic Of Srpska being discirminated against, attacked, or the appalling conditions some have to live because of the treatment they are receiving by the Serbs?
    Yes there are a few reasons for it.

    1) Serbs ARE being mistreated in Kosovo, period. There is no possible denial in that.
    2) There is no such thing as a non-Serb in Republika Srpska, why you think the border is so crooked?

    You know about this deal as much as you know about this obscure little island in the middle of nowhere. So do me a favor, and stop having an opinion. Seriously, you know .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    ) 2) There is no such thing as a non-Serb in Republika Srpska, why you think the border is so crooked?
    Thats a complete and utter lie.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republika_Srpska

    In the early 2000s discrimination against non-Serbs was alleged by NGOs and the Helsinki Commission. The International Crisis Group reported in 2002 that in some parts of Republika Srpska a returnee is ten times more likely to be the victim of violent crime than is a local Serb.[37] The Helsinki Commission, in a 2001 statement on "Tolerance and Non-Discrimination," also pointed at violence against non-Serbs, stating that in the city of Banja Luka[38] and Trebinje[39] mobs attacked people who sought to lay foundations for new mosques on the ruins of those destroyed. There were indications of police collaboration. Non-Serbs have continued difficulty in returning to their original homes and the assembly’s record of cooperation in apprehending individuals indicted for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide is poor.[40]
    Organizations such as the Society for Threatened Peoples, reporting to the United Nations Human Rights Council in 2008, claim that non-Serbian refugees returning to Republika Srpska are discriminated against and live under appalling conditions, particularly in the Drina Valley (Srebrenica, Bratunac, Višegrad and Foča).
    Quote Originally Posted by ComnenusTheOne View Post
    You know about this deal as much as you know about this obscure little island in the middle of nowhere. So do me a favor, and stop having an opinion. Seriously, you know .
    Must have struck a nerve. But its quite obvious your talking out of your ass, since you honestly tried to claim there was no such thing as a non-Serb in Republika Srpska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanoi View Post
    Oh i agree. The Serb-majority areas should be given back to Serbia, but why do it, when that country does not recognize the independence of Kosovo?
    Well the consistent thing to do would be to make North Kosovo independent of Kosovo.

    THough I'm sure it would still encompass one or two Albanian villages. These villages would then need to be made independent countries, too.

    And so on, ad absurdum -- that is the only logically consistent outcome of making Kosovo an independent 'country' to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible View Post
    Well the consistent thing to do would be to make North Kosovo independent of Kosovo.

    THough I'm sure it would still encompass one or two Albanian villages. These villages would then need to be made independent countries, too.

    And so on, ad absurdum -- that is the only logically consistent outcome of making Kosovo an independent 'country' to begin with.
    Or the areas could just be given to Serbia, and for that Serbia recognizes Kosovo as an independent country. The people in Kosovo do not want to be a part of Serbia. Serbia is going to have to live with Kosovo being an independent country. The bets way i see this working is the Serb majority areas to be given back to Serbia.

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    Come on, padrino, you know there's no convincing these Neuropeans that they've ever done anything wrong.

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    I think Russia needs to do something about this.

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    I think Russia needs to do something about this.
    Surely this is Hungary's problem to sort out... Russia getting involved would be a mistake I think.

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    When are you going to get over the fact that Serbs in Republika Srpska don't want to be part of Bosnia ?
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    Hahahhahahah...

    Back to the subject, do we have any proof that those kids were not committing crimes against humanity against Albanians, cause you know, they are Serbs, its in their genes...
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    Ok,so you refuse to answer my post and continue to derail the thread by talking about Bosnia and bashing the Bosnian Serbs which hasn't got anything to do whatsoever with the incident from the OP?

    That's shameful behavior to say the least.Shameful but not surprising.

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    I see a lot of assumptions made in the OP even though the full facts are still to be established. I think il padrino is trying to assume that it was ethnic attack perpetrated by Albanians upon Serbs. This could conceivably be true but at the beginning of the article it clearly states "According to reports, "an unidentified individual threw an explosive device at a Serb house in the Bosniak (Bošnjačka) Mahala neighborhood". So we don't know who actually committed the crime thus far. Wouldn't it better to wait for a thorough investigation to take place before getting carried away?

    In addition senior Serbian officials have seen fit to engage in the blame game and direct outbursts at KFOR and EULEX which hardly helps the situation. From the OP:
    Kosovska Mitrovica Mayor and Deputy Director of the Government Office for Kosovo and Metohija Krstimir Pantić reacted in a strongly worded statement, calling on the local Serbs to end all communication with NATO and EU missions, KFOR and EULEX, and referred to them as "the occupying forces".

    "This terrorist attack reveals that the international community stands behind it - KFOR and EULEX. The greatest responsibility is with the commander of KFOR and the EULEX mission chief, without whose knowledge and consent this terrorist attack would not have taken place," Pantić stated.

    In Belgrade, Kosovo Office Director Aleksandar Vulin spoke for B92 to say that he had asked the international community representatives in Kosovo to urgently state their position on the bomb attack, and find the perpetrators:

    "How can you not condemn an act of violence that targeted a three-year-boy and his nine-year-old sister? We do not know who did this. But from the family's history we see that their only sin is that they are Serbs. They have not upset anyone in any other way."

    Vulin also urged "the international community" to react and "stop treating Serbs as second-rate citizens".
    It would be better for officials in Belgrade to work with EULEX and KFOR in looking for the perpetrators of this criminal act instead of, imo, trying incite the mob.
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