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    Default Former SEAL Chris Kyle, deadliest Sniper in US history, murdered at Texas gun range

    Looks like one of the Vets suffering from PTSD Kyle was trying to help rehabilitate flipped out and started shooting.

    Kyle was a living legend within the SEAL community and his book is a great read detailing how he came to become known as the "Devil of Ramadi" among Iraqi insurgents who went so far as to post a $90,000 bounty on his head for somewhere on the order of 200+ kills. He's also the same guy who reportedly punched Jesse Ventura in the face for badmouthing the Iraq War while at a SEAL funeral. In fact IIRC the only reason he left active service was in order to save his marriage.

    Utterly tragic are the only words I can use to describe this. I have no doubt at all it will play into the ongoing firearms debate on Capitol Hill. Thoughts?

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    Chris Kyle, former Navy SEAL and author of the New York Times bestseller American Sniper, was one of two victims killed in a shooting at a Texas gun range Saturday.

    According to a local news station, police have arrested a suspect in the slayings. The suspect reportedly shot Kyle at point-blank range while he attempted to aid a fellow veteran.

    Kyle reportedly achieved 160 kills as a sniper in the Navy SEALs. His author profile at Amazon.com summarizes the extensive decorations he received while serving:

    SEAL Team 3 Chief Chris Kyle served four combat tours in Operation Iraqi Freedom and elsewhere. For his bravery in battle, he was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals, and one Navy and Marine Corps Commendation. Additionally, he received the Grateful Nation Award, given by the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. Following his combat deployments, he became chief instructor for training Naval Special Warfare Sniper and Counter-Sniper teams, and he authored the Naval Special Warfare Sniper Doctrine, the first Navy SEAL sniper manual.

    The shooting occurred in Erath County, Texas, some 50 miles from Fort Worth.
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    I am saddened to have to announce the tragic loss of another one of our own. This has been a hard year for the Special Operations community, perhaps the SEAL community most of all.

    Today Chris Kyle was shot and killed at a shooting range at the Rough Creek Lodge in Texas, murdered along with a second individual.

    Chris had been volunteering his time to help Marine Corps veterans suffering from PTSD and mentoring them. Part of this process involved taking these veterans to the range where one of them snapped and killed Chris and his neighbor for reasons that remain unknown at this time. The perpetrator then stole Chris’ vehicle in an attempt to escape but we have received word that the police have since arrested him.

    Chris Kyle served as a sniper in the US Navy SEALs and is best known to the American public from writing his memoir, “American Sniper.” After his service, Chris ran a training program called The Craft. Although recognized as America’s deadliest sniper, Chris was known to friends as a very down to earth and humble man. He was also a friend of SOFREP and worked closely with Brandon Webb on a recent project of ours.

    I just got off the phone with Brandon who is understandably upset over losing another friend not long after laying Glen Doherty to rest a few months ago. The entire SOF community is still in shock over this incident, and we will have more to say on the matter as the situation develops.

    Right now it is simply the time to have a moment of silence for Chris Kyle and his friend who was murdered alongside him.

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    Default Re: Former SEAL Chris Kyle, deadliest Sniper in US history, murdered at Texas gun range

    Heres a good question, how many Americans do you have to kill with guns to get rid of the Second Amendment? Sorry, all these strings of shootings make me kinda sad/angry at our current gun laws.
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    Default Re: Former SEAL Chris Kyle, deadliest Sniper in US history, murdered at Texas gun range

    He's also the same guy who reportedly punched Jesse Ventura in the face for badmouthing the Iraq War while at a SEAL funeral
    So he decided to hit a person that was criticizing the cause of that soldier's death?

    Seems americans are sensible about their little wars around the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Facupay View Post
    So he decided to hit a person that was criticizing the cause of that soldier's death?

    Seems americans are sensible about their little wars around the world.
    It's not an appropriate venue for such things. If you can't see that then you are clearly the one that lacks any sense.

    In regards to Chris Kyle, sad tidings indeed. I have his book, but I haven't read it yet.

    It's a damn shame he is dead, but I don't feel giving people struggling with PTSD guns is a good idea, seems like something like this would be inevitable in such a case.
    It might seem that way, but really PTSD sufferers are not the crazed lunatics that Hollywood makes them out to be. The details behind the shooting aren't really known as of yet. It could be that there was an argument or altercation-- or something else. While I personally wouldn't use shooting as a means to rehabilitate those who are suffering from severe cases of PTSD I certainly wouldn't think "Oh God it's only a matter of time until one of these crazies shoot someone". Because that's just a wildly inaccurate view of people suffering from PTSD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jin View Post
    It's not an appropriate venue for such things. If you can't see that then you are clearly the one that lacks any sense.

    In regards to Chris Kyle, sad tidings indeed. I have his book, but I haven't read it yet.
    I guess punching someone is a much more respectful thing to do in a funeral.
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    A dark and abrupt end for such a gifted soldier.

    I see the anti-military brigade has arrived early. It's funny how they only vent their rhetoric against professional soldiers rather than the fanatics they fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jin View Post
    It's not an appropriate venue for such things. If you can't see that then you are clearly the one that lacks any sense.
    Does this mean someone can finally beat the out of the Westboro Baptist Church for doing the same thing?

    Those degenerates make me want to cross the ocean with a baseball bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    A dark and abrupt end for such a gifted soldier.

    I see the anti-military brigade has arrived early. It's funny how they only vent their rhetoric against professional soldiers rather than the fanatics they fight.

    Does this mean someone can finally beat the out of the Westboro Baptist Church for doing the same thing?

    Those degenerates make me want to cross the ocean with a baseball bat.
    A far more reasonable post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post

    Those degenerates make me want to cross the ocean with a baseball bat.
    Please do, i will join you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    A dark and abrupt end for such a gifted soldier.

    I see the anti-military brigade has arrived early. It's funny how they only vent their rhetoric against professional soldiers rather than the fanatics they fight.

    Does this mean someone can finally beat the out of the Westboro Baptist Church for doing the same thing?

    Those degenerates make me want to cross the ocean with a baseball bat.
    Pics or it didnt happen.

    Anyway, if I'd cross an ocean with a baseball bat there would be long list with them crazy KKK church dudes prolly not even be on it because they are just all talk. Like crossing an ocean with a baseball bat...

    Rather get strarted on this old jelly excuse of a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Arcturus Mengsk View Post
    Why are you surprised that he was shot?

    Live by the sword, die by the sword.
    So I take it you are an extremely religious Christian with that quote then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post

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    And this man and his ilk are the reason that everyone needs a nuclear arsenal. It's the only way to peacefully coexist with America. Nothing wrong with the world that the sustained nuclear bombardment (10-15 gigatonnes over a year)of the bible belt wouldn't solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facupay View Post
    So he decided to hit a person that was criticizing the cause of that soldier's death?

    Seems americans are sensible about their little wars around the world.
    I know, but still was a funeral....

    I guess after blasting away 160+ human beings you're sure to have Karma come around eventually.
    I was thinking the same thing.

    Our morality needs to fit our reality, the other way around is silly.
    I disagree on this. One of the things that make us diferent then other animals is actualy this, to have morals or conscious to shape our reality.
    Without it we live in the world of the strongest and the fitness. And looking to our actual reality that doesnt seem to old true entirely.
    Thankfull, imo.
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    Default Re: Former SEAL Chris Kyle, deadliest Sniper in US history, murdered at Texas gun range

    Funerals aren't the right place for that sort of political nonsense to be perfectly honest. It's a damn shame he is dead, but I don't feel giving people struggling with PTSD guns is a good idea, seems like something like this would be inevitable in such a case.
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    Tragic indeed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    Utterly tragic are the only words I can use to describe this. I have no doubt at all it will play into the ongoing firearms debate on Capitol Hill.
    The debate is dishonest anyway, the supporters of strict gun laws will only instrumentalize this incident to push their agenda.
    At least in German media, the case of the girl that was murdered in Chicago was instrumentalized in such a fashion, despite gun legislation being pretty strict in that place IIRC.

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    It's getting ridiculous how media use tragedies to push an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    It's getting ridiculous how media use tragedies to push an agenda.
    ^^ This.

    Ironic that the guy who punched Jesse Venture in the face for using a corpse for political football has is corpse being used for political football.
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    I guess not even a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, after all.

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    And here I thought everyone shooting at SEALS always misses, damn 80s action flicks.

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    It's a tragedy, in the sense that someone trying to do a good deed gets killed.

    Since it's unknown what triggered off this fatal incident, it's difficult to know what to discuss and the tact to take.
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    Damn shame he's gone. Though I am going to repeat the echo of others, in that I'm sick of the media using every little bit of gun violence to push an agenda. , why don't they start focusing on drug use? Alcohol abuse? Or, for a change, how many people go out and volunteer for their community. The news is so negative.
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