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    Default Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Currently new to the website and to the series...

    Playing vanilla mtw2 Kingdom of Denmark at normal difficulty & turn 85 (still new to the series, but alot of exp with warband sp)..

    Just recently went to peace with Venice(after beating badly them on several battles) due to the pope keeps getting on my way..

    So on my 9th turn of peace during England's turn, they moved a captain onto Hamburg castle(currently a fortress) and now it is on their possession.. During my turn I saw an event notice(forgot entirely name of event) that Hamburg was taken over by England 'coz they will treat the people of that faction's citizens much better, or something like that..

    I'm confused on how they took it because Hamburg has my faction heir on it with 6 squads of garrison in it.. I got hamburg on a trade with hre for venice on a trade after i got the peace with Venice.. Shouldn't there have been a siege layed by England first? And I didn't notice any English diplomats nearby these setlements I also own to bribe Hamburg: Arhus, Hamburg, Nuremberg or Prague..

    All I remember that I saw during England's turn was that I thought their captain moved next to Hamburg, I didn't realized that it took over Hamburg from me...



    Also I got another question: I'm not entirely sure, but why is it that the amount of troops I have on a garrisoned settlement becomes less when it was originally when it got sieged by an enemy?? I keep noticing this during battles that my garrisoned troops have less numbers at the start of battles(like i should have 75 spear militias in 1 squad instead 63 spear militias, 40 knights templar instead of 33, etc)


    And is there a mod that allows you to spend money to either lower the amount of turns or insta buy/build the current queued building/troops without the need for console cheats??


    Also a mod that allows you to have one of the daughter/son of your faction members to marry another faction's daughter/son, aside from faction princes/princessess??

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    can any mod delete this thread... for some reason it is giving me error "Post denied. New posts are limited by number of URLs it may contain and checked if it doesn't contain forbidden words." whenever i try to post on the gen questions section or during when i tried to make a new topic.. didn't saw this post got through

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Quote Originally Posted by LiteEmUp View Post
    So on my 9th turn of peace during England's turn, they moved a captain onto Hamburg castle(currently a fortress) and now it is on their possession.. During my turn I saw an event notice(forgot entirely name of event) that Hamburg was taken over by England 'coz they will treat the people of that faction's citizens much better, or something like that..

    I'm confused on how they took it because Hamburg has my faction heir on it with 6 squads of garrison in it.. I got hamburg on a trade with hre for venice on a trade after i got the peace with Venice.. Shouldn't there have been a siege layed by England first? And I didn't notice any English diplomats nearby these setlements I also own to bribe Hamburg: Arhus, Hamburg, Nuremberg or Prague..

    All I remember that I saw during England's turn was that I thought their captain moved next to Hamburg, I didn't realized that it took over Hamburg from me...
    Very strange, never happened to me and I never heard about this on the forums. I'm really curious about it if someone knows the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiteEmUp View Post
    Also I got another question: I'm not entirely sure, but why is it that the amount of troops I have on a garrisoned settlement becomes less when it was originally when it got sieged by an enemy?? I keep noticing this during battles that my garrisoned troops have less numbers at the start of battles(like i should have 75 spear militias in 1 squad instead 63 spear militias, 40 knights templar instead of 33, etc)
    Because they starve when the city is under siege. You see, food supplies are limited when the settlement is under siege (and because of this they can't bring food from outside) so there simply isn't enough for everyone, and some starve to death .



    Quote Originally Posted by LiteEmUp View Post
    And is there a mod that allows you to spend money to either lower the amount of turns or insta buy/build the current queued building/troops without the need for console cheats??
    Don't think so; at least, I never heard about a mod like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiteEmUp View Post
    Also a mod that allows you to have one of the daughter/son of your faction members to marry another faction's daughter/son, aside from faction princes/princessess??
    No.
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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    And is there a mod that allows you to spend money to either lower the amount of turns or insta buy/build the current queued building/troops without the need for console cheats??


    Not that I'm aware of, the only way to do that is with console cheats.

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegionare View Post
    And is there a mod that allows you to spend money to either lower the amount of turns or insta buy/build the current queued building/troops without the need for console cheats??
    Not that I'm aware of. The only way is with console cheats.

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Sorry about the mess i made with responding, I'm a little new to the forums and don't know how to fully use everything yet.

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    I suppose the "They will treat the people much better" he mistook the event when the settlement is occupied, "At least they had the decency with the people of solely replacing the governing head rather than pillaging, the council calls you for retake it" or something of the likes.

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert View Post
    I suppose the "They will treat the people much better" he mistook the event when the settlement is occupied, "At least they had the decency with the people of solely replacing the governing head rather than pillaging, the council calls you for retake it" or something of the likes.
    My hypothesis exactly.
    It seems most likely that they declared war and somehow conquered & occupied the castle, rather than the castle actually rebelling and being turned over to England just like that (if that happened, it would be one heck of a bug... )
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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Quote Originally Posted by LiteEmUp View Post
    I'm confused on how they took it because Hamburg has my faction heir on it with 6 squads of garrison in it.. I got hamburg on a trade with hre for venice on a trade after i got the peace with Venice.. Shouldn't there have been a siege layed by England first? And I didn't notice any English diplomats nearby these setlements I also own to bribe Hamburg: Arhus, Hamburg, Nuremberg or Prague.

    What happened to your garrison? Did they just disappear off the map? Check your heir in the family tree. If it shows he has died (greyed out) float your mouse over his portrait and it will tell you how (e.g. 'Died in Battle', 'Died Peacefully', 'Died Tragically', etc.). It may provide you with some clues.

    I have never seen what you are describing happen, and don't expect I ever will. Make sure you are patched to v1.2 or higher. The earlier versions of the game have significantly more bugs.

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    Default Re: Neutral Faction took over my garrisoned castle, plus some more questions

    Oh, so the faction heir was in Hamburg. Then bribing is out of the question as from what I remember the faction leader and the heir can't be bribed.

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