The Dutch

[EgyptianWarLord]

I have a bit of a ridiculous question

Can you trade with the Dutch in Shogun 2? Or are the Dutch not present in Shogun 2?

Cheers

[eXistenZ]

Nope, not present. Only the portuguese in S2, and only the french, british and american in Fots

[Robin de Bodemloze]

The Dutch arrived in scale only after the Sengoku-jidai, and while Rangaku was in full swing by the Boshin period they were never a military influence. Plus they're not fashionable enough to cause people in major markets to buy CA's video game.

[EgyptianWarLord]

I was asking this because I was planning to get firearms without converting my clan

[Robin de Bodemloze]

You can - build the gunpowder gain and research heaven and earth etc.

[EgyptianWarLord]

You can - build the gunpowder gain and research heaven and earth etc.

Thanks

[eXistenZ]

Luckily the dutch werent there. Cause they would make the japanese too stoned to fight, and we wouldnt have a game

[SODK]

Another possibility for early acces is to accept foreign trade and build a nanban trade port and import matchlocks. This will starting spreading christian influence though but this effect can be canceled out by building a monastery in the province + a monk (or just 2 monks or so). Ofcourse you could go for the tech but as you wait this is an (expensive) option

I always do this because I just WANT matchlocks early!

[Welsh Dragon]

You could also play Otomo clan, who start out Christian (so don't have to convert) and have early/easier/cheaper access to firearms