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    Someone linked this over facebook



    I was quite shocked, is it really this bad in your country that you have to allow people to march and treathen the institution that enforces the law, and that allows people to tell woman they will go to hell?

    (Alltough the mysoginy is a universal thing of muslims it seems, concidering femme de la rue and what you hear about the treatment of woman amongst muslim societies)

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    Is your question whether protests are allowed in the United Kingdom? Is that rhetorical?

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    I am a little ashamed of the woman, who is she to tell these men that they don't follow Islam?
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    this is just shameful for muslims...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxXxMarioxXxX View Post
    this is just shameful for muslims...
    Does it follow that the Westborough Baptist Church is shameful for Christians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Mark View Post
    Does it follow that the Westborough Baptist Church is shameful for Christians?
    Of course. I live in the bible belt and everyone agrees that Westboro is an absolute disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severus Snape View Post
    Of course. I live in the bible belt and everyone agrees that Westboro is an absolute disgrace.
    Why should any Christian feel ashamed for the actions of individuals they have nothing to do with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Mark View Post
    Does it follow that the Westborough Baptist Church is shameful for Christians?
    If only the problem of Islam was limited to 30 mostly related (and seemingly non-violent) people in one small midwestern town.

    Otherwise the two examples are exactly the same.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    If only the problem of Islam was limited to 30 mostly related (and seemingly non-violent) people in one small midwestern town.

    Otherwise the two examples are exactly the same.....
    I wasn't trying to compare them to these protesters, I was pointing out that damning an entire religion because of a minute group is as stupid as damning Christianity for the WBC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Mark View Post
    I wasn't trying to compare them to these protesters, I was pointing out that damning an entire religion because of a minute group is as stupid as damning Christianity for the WBC.
    Indeed, we cannot claim all muslims are evil
    but in this particular case, we can claim that their 'evilness' (very exagerrated) is linked to their belief
    so if you want to deal with this problem, you also have to take that into account
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    If only the problem of Islam was limited to 30 mostly related (and seemingly non-violent) people in one small midwestern town.

    Otherwise the two examples are exactly the same.....
    Thankfully our problem with Islamophobia is confined for 10 months for immigration fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Thankfully our problem with Islamophobia is confined for 10 months for immigration fraud.
    Wait, what? Could this be one of the greatest and most delicious cases of irony in recent times?
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    This isn't in UK this is in Karachi or else.

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    wow.. this is shocking, It's these sort of muslim extremists that mean organisations like the EDL gain more and more support. I can't believe the guy said that because the law isnt Muslim law then they wont follow it. Surely if he wants to live somewhere that has laws like that he should be living there and not here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andysmfc13 View Post
    wow.. this is shocking, It's these sort of muslim extremists that mean organisations like the EDL gain more and more support. I can't believe the guy said that because the law isnt Muslim law then they wont follow it. Surely if he wants to live somewhere that has laws like that he should be living there and not here?
    It is really easy, the moment that he doesn't follow the law of her majesty the person will be punished by the full force of the law.
    I was under the impression that us in the West were living in a free society. The only way that these barbarians can destroy this free society is when we decide to destroy it because of some ungrounded fear.
    Let them say what they want, let them enjoy this society. However when they break the laws of the UK they should be punished by the same law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andysmfc13 View Post
    wow.. this is shocking, It's these sort of muslim extremists that mean organisations like the EDL gain more and more support. I can't believe the guy said that because the law isnt Muslim law then they wont follow it. Surely if he wants to live somewhere that has laws like that he should be living there and not here?
    This, the guy who put that on his wall isn't a racist, but he's starting to get his doubts towards Muslims (this was a Belgian dude who linked it by the way).

    And to be frank, this, and the muslim squad that harasses people in London and well femme de la rue, and just opening the newspaper is making me pretty resentfull towards Muslims.

    I've reached that point of total apathy towards mulims suffering. And in some cases slightly smiling when I hear of something bad happening to Muslims, as much as I should be ashamed, especially because I allways resented racism, I've reached that point where I became the oposite of myself and instead of asking about social economic factors, social isolation etc... I just prefer the easy: bloody muslims doing evil muslimy stuff again.

    Then again, If you look at the video in my op, and the video of the shariah gangs, and the docu femme de la rue... Maybe there is some truth to the "bloody Muslims!" mindset
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara View Post

    I've reached that point of total apathy towards mulims suffering. And in some cases slightly smiling when I hear of something bad happening to Muslims, as much as I should be ashamed, especially because I allways resented racism,
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara View Post
    This, the guy who put that on his wall isn't a racist, but he's starting to get his doubts towards Muslims (this was a Belgian dude who linked it by the way).

    And to be frank, this, and the muslim squad that harasses people in London and well femme de la rue, and just opening the newspaper is making me pretty resentfull towards Muslims.

    I've reached that point of total apathy towards mulims suffering. And in some cases slightly smiling when I hear of something bad happening to Muslims, as much as I should be ashamed, especially because I allways resented racism, I've reached that point where I became the oposite of myself and instead of asking about social economic factors, social isolation etc... I just prefer the easy: bloody muslims doing evil muslimy stuff again.

    Then again, If you look at the video in my op, and the video of the shariah gangs, and the docu femme de la rue... Maybe there is some truth to the "bloody Muslims!" mindset
    If they break the law then let them be punished by the full force of the law. What is so difficult about it?

    And what do you expect to gain with a post like this? The only thing it shows is that you are biased and there is no place for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara View Post
    I've reached that point of total apathy towards mulims suffering. And in some cases slightly smiling when I hear of something bad happening to Muslims, as much as I should be ashamed, especially because I allways resented racism, I've reached that point where I became the oposite of myself and instead of asking about social economic factors, social isolation etc... I just prefer the easy: bloody muslims doing evil muslimy stuff again.
    Yep, let's make ridiculous generalisations. Man, I don't feel sorry for the millions of starving people in Africa either because of the fact that a small minority of them are evil.

    Yep, same with the Jews. There were a few bad apples so the holocaust was entirely justified and I smile a little bit when I read about. Bloody Jews.

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    Don't know how long you've been here, but for most years I've allways defended Muslims, and ranted against those who would generalise Muslims. I was extremely anti racist.

    Then I grew up and learned that things aren't that simple and that those "racists" are on to something.

    I dare you guys to watch the news a single day and seeing if you can avoid seeing an ali, or mohammed or rachid or whatever being in the news negatively, either via thievery, mysoginy, a desire for shariah in Western Europe, etc...

    Even the Greens and socialists in this country the staunchest defenders of multiculturalism and solidarity are starting to say that political correctness and the lefts refusal to see the truth has caused most of todays problems

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