7000 evicted in Brazil by Government.

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 02:37 AM

7000 thousand people lost their homes and farms, basically had their small town razed by Brazilian troops and Police so as to make space for a new "Indian reservation".

After the Americanization of Brazilians Blacks by giving them University quotas, the creation of Bantustans for Blacks, now Brazil is following the American policy of creating internment "reservations" for Indians and for that are stealing lands from poor farmers.

There are also reports that the government is selling "amnesia" to Ranchers, so as to not evict them from their lands, and has no plans to even resettle the people it illegally evicted

The government promised that those who qualify for the new land reform program will receive farmland, but since land reform is a pet project of the PT darlings known as MST then it is safe to assume this is going to go as well as land reform in Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

PS: So Brazilians hate the US, but are doing all the dumb things the USA has done in term of racial relations. Do they hate the US or not ?

What do you think ?

You can get a Youtube English translated subtitles

The massive operation, which left an estimated 7,500 or more people, including thousands of children, homeless was justified by authorities under the guise of creating an Indian reservation.
Towns literally have been wiped off the map, and no compensation was offered to the victims. About 400,000 acres of land were expropriated in the latest operation.
Residents in the Siua-Missu area in the state of Mato Grosso battled heavily armed federal police and military forces for weeks using sticks, rocks, Molotov cocktails and other crude weapons.
In the end, however, the powerful national government forces were overwhelming.
Virtually all of the residents have now been displaced, living in squalor, packed into school gymnasiums in nearby towns. Others are living on charity under plastic tarps propped up with sticks with no clean water or sewage services.
Leaders of the feeble resistance, meanwhile, are being hunted down by authorities for punishment.
It was in 1993, shortly after the first United Nations summit on sustainable development in Rio de Janeiro, when the scheme was proposed. The Brazilian government’s executive branch decreed that the land in question belonged to Indians.
“These areas are marked off with rushed studies by leftist anthropologists, ideological and hardly scientific,” Fernando Furquim with the Movement for Peace in the Countryside, a non-profit organization that supports private property rights, told WND.
“The conflicts between the productive sector and Indians are assuming greater proportions,” he added. “Countless non-governmental organizations have appeared, many from abroad, to involve themselves in the question.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/troops-bu...Zjka2uW1siQ.99

For those who want another source

A situação das famílias que ocupavam a terra indígena de Marãiwatsédé, dos Xavantes, na região nordeste de Mato Grosso, tem gerado preocupação. Atento ao problema, o deputado estadual Sebastião Rezende aproveitou uma audiência que teve esta semana com o governador do Estado, Silval Barbosa, para cobrar a devida atenção às famílias e produtores rurais que foram retirados da área por força de decisão judicial.

Rezende alertou ao chefe do Executivo que as famílias e produtores rurais estão migrando para localidades vizinhas, superlotando cidades como Alto Boa Vista (MT), São Félix do Araguaia (MT) e Bom Jesus do Araguaia (MT). E nessas cidades, as famílias retiradas vêm passando sérias dificuldades, inclusive de falta de alimentação. “As prefeituras da região são pobres e cobram que o governador lhes dê um suporte”, externou.

Em resposta, o governador Silval Barbosa assumiu perante o parlamentar o compromisso de enviar equipes da Secretaria de Estado de Trabalho e Assistência Social (Setas) para a região, a fim de levantar a real situação e garantir a assistência necessária. Para Rezende, a assistência é o mínimo que o Estado pode fazer neste momento em prol de famílias que, por décadas, ocuparam a região e, de uma hora para outra, foram obrigadas a retirarem-se das terras.

http://www.agenciadanoticia.com.br/n...-area-indigena

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 02:42 AM

Is... there a link for this that isn't a website that claims Obama is teaching children to practice cannibalism?

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

Is... there a link for this that isn't a website that claims Obama is teaching children to practice cannibalism?

I hope you took Portuguese in high-school

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 02:53 AM

I didn't. Are you claiming that a story as serious as this has made no English language footprint on the internet except for one conspiracy website?

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

I didn't. Are you claiming that a story as serious as this has made no English language footprint on the internet except for one conspiracy website?

Are you claiming that a story is false because it has not made it to English News Websites ?

Also serious to whom ? Do serious stories look serious to everyone locally all across the globe ?

**alhoon** · January 30, 2013, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Menelik_I

Are you claiming that a story is false because it has not made it to English News Websites ?

Actually I do have my doupts about the validity too. The international media are all in English language. Something as serious as that would have made headlines in yahoo news and BBC.

For example this made the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...slum-residents

I don't see while the other story wouldn't

Anyway, speaking on the story that the Guardian mentions:
I'm torn here. Those 6000 were illegaly staying on the property of a company that was bankrupt. Yet, with so many homeless in Brazil (11.5M according to the article) it's not suprising such incidents will happen. I find it very harsh to have 2000 policemen storm an (illegal) settlement, which was a community and evict people that lived there (illegally) for 7 years. There were children that were born there after all.
On the other hand... the people lived there illegaly.

The best option in my opinion would be to move them to temporary homes or containers or something at the very least instead of just kicking them out.

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by alhoon

Actually I do have my doupts about the validity too. The international media are all in English language. Something as serious as that would have made headlines in yahoo news and BBC.

I provided a Brazilian News Broadcast, which is something you can't easily falsify.

As for the demand for an English Language source, it is really amusing to me that people here assume that everything is equally interesting to everybody everywhere at the same time.

Do you give a

about Borneo ? I don't, and I bet nobody in Borneo give a

about my country.

**alhoon** · January 30, 2013, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Menelik_I

As for the demand for an English Language source, it is really amusing to me that people here assume that everything is equally interesting to everybody everywhere at the same time.

I so love quoting myself.

Originally Posted by alhoon

For example this made the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/23/brazilian-police-clash-slum-residents

I don't see while the other story wouldn't

So, why the Guardian a week ago thought that evicting 6000 residents from an illegal community was interesting enough for their readers but evicting 7000 residents from a legal community is not?

Your argument doesn't hold enough water Menelik. We're not talking about a double murder or a big bank robbery in Brazil (that still would probably make the news) we're talking about a ####storm. Yeah, not as bad as Syria (with 250K+displaced) but still increadibly important.

As for the Brazilian news site: We can't understand what it says. For example, it could give an explanation about that eviction or say that the people were given recompensation or something.

**Kanaric** · January 30, 2013, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Menelik_I

Are you claiming that a story is false because it has not made it to English News Websites ?

Also serious to whom ? Do serious stories look serious to everyone locally all across the globe ?

Cannibalism.

I think we need evidence to claims from multiple credible sources. That is a fairly reasonable demand to make with such a ridiculous accusation.

Care that I post some alex jones videos and claim the fluoridation saps your bodily fluids? Wan't me to post the munn's report as proof of bigfoot?

**Thorn777** · January 30, 2013, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

I didn't. Are you claiming that a story as serious as this has made no English language footprint on the internet except for one conspiracy website?

Stories as these, as well as maybe even more scandalous stories are often not made into stories on a daily basis.

Like this one at the times very similar to the OP...

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 03:40 AM

I think the story is dubious - Brazil is a democracy, and the notion of the Government simply being able to wipe out a town using the army is unrealistic. I think there's likely two options: your article grossly misrepresents the facts of the story, or alternatively that these people that have been evicted were illegally settling the area, anyway. Brazil is constantly obliged to remove illegal ranching, farming and logging settlements that are destroying the Amazon Rainforest and attacking native groups.

So yes, I would like to see some decent referencing. Can you provide nothing at all?

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

I think the story is dubious - Brazil is a democracy, and the notion of the Government simply being able to wipe out a town using the army is unrealistic. I think there's likely two options: your article grossly misrepresents the facts of the story, or alternatively that these people that have been evicted were illegally settling the area, anyway. Brazil is constantly obliged to remove illegal ranching, farming and logging settlements that are destroying the Amazon Rainforest and attacking native groups.

So yes, I would like to see some decent referencing. Can you provide nothing at all?

I provided a Portuguese source, learn to use Google Translate ... reality can't be held hostage of your linguistic ignorance.

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 03:52 AM

You provided a video. You can't Google Translate a video.

If this is all as legit as you claim... why would it be difficult to find an English language source that wasn't a obvious conspiracy site?

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

You provided a video. You can't Google Translate a video.

If this is all as legit as you claim... why would it be difficult to find an English language source that wasn't a obvious conspiracy site?

i provided this, you can translate it. Also the second video in the OP can be given English subtitles courtesy of Youtube.

A situação das famílias que ocupavam a terra indígena de Marãiwatsédé, dos Xavantes, na região nordeste de Mato Grosso, tem gerado preocupação. Atento ao problema, o deputado estadual Sebastião Rezende aproveitou uma audiência que teve esta semana com o governador do Estado, Silval Barbosa, para cobrar a devida atenção às famílias e produtores rurais que foram retirados da área por força de decisão judicial.

Rezende alertou ao chefe do Executivo que as famílias e produtores rurais estão migrando para localidades vizinhas, superlotando cidades como Alto Boa Vista (MT), São Félix do Araguaia (MT) e Bom Jesus do Araguaia (MT). E nessas cidades, as famílias retiradas vêm passando sérias dificuldades, inclusive de falta de alimentação. “As prefeituras da região são pobres e cobram que o governador lhes dê um suporte”, externou.

Em resposta, o governador Silval Barbosa assumiu perante o parlamentar o compromisso de enviar equipes da Secretaria de Estado de Trabalho e Assistência Social (Setas) para a região, a fim de levantar a real situação e garantir a assistência necessária. Para Rezende, a assistência é o mínimo que o Estado pode fazer neste momento em prol de famílias que, por décadas, ocuparam a região e, de uma hora para outra, foram obrigadas a retirarem-se das terras.

http://www.agenciadanoticia.com.br/n...-area-indigena

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

If this is all as legit as you claim... why would it be difficult to find an English language source that wasn't a obvious conspiracy site?

Why would you expect that the story would be interesting to a English Audience ? Does everything that important that happen in every single country is important to everyone on the globe to the same degree ?

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 04:26 AM

Again, I can't speak Portuguese, and I am not posting on a Portugese site. Everybody knows that Google Translate is unreliable and again: if this were legit it would be very easy to find an English language link. So why can't you?

**Menelik_I** · January 30, 2013, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

Again, I can't speak Portuguese, and I am not posting on a Portugese site. Everybody knows that Google Translate is unreliable and again: if this were legit it would be very easy to find an English language link. So why can't you?

A Brazilian News Website and News Broadcast be damned ... if you can't find it in English then it is not true.

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

BTW, when translated, that article claims they "occupied the land of indigenous Maraiwatsede".

I know, that article is slightly biased on the pro-government bent, these people have been living there since at least the 1960's (more than 50 years) and the indigenous claim is disputed.

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Menelik_I

I know, that article is slightly biased on the pro-government bent

So not only can you not provide a good link in English, but the one you do provide you don't even trust yourself? This is a bit of a mess, isn't it?

**Heinz Guderian** · January 30, 2013, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by The Black Mark

So not only can you not provide a good link in English, but the one you do provide you don't even trust yourself? This is a bit of a mess, isn't it?

You've been quite patient and enjoyable in this thread Black Mark. Rep to you sir

**The Black Mark** · January 30, 2013, 04:30 AM

BTW, when translated, that article claims they "occupied the land of indigenous Maraiwatsede".

**Caelifer_1991** · January 30, 2013, 05:16 AM

I agree with the others, if this happened as your source states it did Menelik, then it would have found it's way to an international news website, and international news websites operate in English, thus there would be an English source if this story was accurate.