Couple of quick questions

**boofhead** · August 13, 2006, 05:12 PM

Hi all am playing RTRPE 1.6 with Candelarius' mod and BI.exe.

Would appreciate some information on

(1) early in my game I suddenly dscovered Messana had become mine (Roman). This happened also to my wife last night. I assume this is the result of a rebellion but why does it become Roman and not Greek or Carthaginian? Is it to do with faction slots or something?

(2) nowhere in my RTW/BI Gold (single DVD) manual does it explain why during battles some units will take on a subdued golden glow at times, usually in the heat of combat and when casualties are being taken. Does this represent some kind of morale boost gained during difficult hand-to-hand battles?

Thanks. Would really like to know!

**Solaris** · August 13, 2006, 05:24 PM

No idea about the Messana thing, it is a rebellion and it has happened to me..

The golden glow is the unit gaining experience.

**boofhead** · August 13, 2006, 05:27 PM

Thanks mate - that explains that mystery......

**johnhughthom** · August 13, 2006, 05:38 PM

Units glow when they gain experience???
Is this added by RTR PE or has it always happened? Ive been playing Rome since it came out and I've never noticed it.

**boofhead** · August 13, 2006, 05:42 PM

I've always had units glow like that.

I turn off the ghastly green arrows on the battlemap so my units glow slightly when selected but this is different. It a noticable golden glow with little stars flashing about the unit.

**Solaris** · August 13, 2006, 07:03 PM

It's a 1.5 thing, I think.

**johnhughthom** · August 13, 2006, 07:09 PM

I only moved onto 1.5 and Platinum RTR in the last week, so thats probably why Ive never noticed it.

**spirit_of_rob** · August 13, 2006, 07:26 PM

the golden stars for experiance arrived with BI and RTW 1.5 im not sure why they felt this was necessary but whatever

as for the revolts a city will revolt from rebel to whoever the founder of the city was in the code so messana must have rome as founder

**boofhead** · August 13, 2006, 07:34 PM

OK thanks "spirit_of_rob / dexter". Was never really sure if Messana was a rebel city when it underwent the rebellion or had been captured by Greece or Carthage and revolted to me. FOW.

**kolominas** · August 14, 2006, 02:12 AM

The Messana revolt is there to pinpoint the start for the first Punic War (which started when the Messana Mamertines asked Rome for help against mighty Syracuse, unfortunately for Rome the Cartheginans beated them to it, which started their rivalry)

**Cheexsta** · August 14, 2006, 03:49 AM

Regarding Messana, spirit_of_rob's explanation is correct. Unfortunately, it is hardcoded that there MUST be a default_faction set, and since Rome is the default_faction for Messana it will revolt to Rome in the early years of the game if its owner can't keep the city happy. I've noticed that it's much rarer than with the 1.2 patch, but it still happens.

With the "golden glow" you see with unit experience, this effect can be disabled with the 1.5 patch. Go to your preferences folder and open preferences.txt (NOT the one in your base RTW directory, it no longer does anything), then look for UNIT_EXPERIENCE_UPGRADE_EFFECT and set it to FALSE.