No Israel election thread?

[King Gambrinus]

Has everybody given up on debating such a mess?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21156621

Ho hum, another term of Netanyahu, only with a sprinkling of more ultra-orthodox religious nutters. No wonder most of the reasonable people in Israel moved in to block the religious domination by voting for the secular bloke.

Israel has moved so far to the right the BBC are calling him and Kadima centre-left now.


I'll just keep looking for that "beacon of liberal democracy" in the Middle East then...

[PointOfViewGun]

It gets boring after a while...

[issler]

Has everybody given up on debating such a mess?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21156621

Ho hum, another term of Netanyahu, only with a sprinkling of more ultra-orthodox religious nutters. No wonder most of the reasonable people in Israel moved in to block the religious domination by voting for the secular bloke.

Israel has moved so far to the right the BBC are calling him and Kadima centre-left now.


I'll just keep looking for that "beacon of liberal democracy" in the Middle East then...

Could you be more disrespectful? You don't even have a point.
It would have been the same if you had just copied "I hate Israel" all over.
You're just pointlessly bashing..

[King Gambrinus]

Kadima is so dead, it fails me why you're even mentioning it.

Because they used to be considered a strong centre-right force and now they are considered centre-left? Hmm...

Why has Kadima died?

[King Gambrinus]

Could you be more disrespectful? You don't even have a point.
It would have been the same if you had just copied "I hate Israel" all over.
You're just pointlessly bashing..

I do not hate Israel. I fear it is turning into a quasi-theocratic dictatorship where electors have a choice between several ways of infringing on other people's rights.

Some of those right-wing parties are scary. As in, you know, those-blokes-who-killed-6-million-jews scary.

[issler]

I fear it is turning into a quasi-theocratic dictatorship

Don't worry, it's not. It's just you that can't conceive israelis actually having an opinion different than yours, because you think yours is so right.

[Your Lame Sister]

What a biased, prejudiced mess. Here are some FACTS for a change, people:
Netanyahu got re-elected, but lost 25% of his electoral power.
Overall, the left-center parties gained power to the point that they are now almost equal to the right wing block.
The Likud (Netanyahu's party) absorbed some extreme right wing activists during the elections campaign, but Netanyahu will have to ignore their wishes if he wants to maintain a working government.

[Kanaric]

I don't think we need to talk about whatever authoritarians they elect to government. The fact there is no thread is telling enough of what people think of that country. There was more to discuss when Kim Jong Un assumed power than the Israeli elections.

[Salah ad Din Yusuf]

Right parties won. So-called 'left' parties who are also right increased in size. The arab parties and meretz grew some. I doubt the elections will affect Israel's policy. It will be more anti-orthodox, except this, nothing will change.

[Col. Tartleton]

Given that Israel was basically communist initially of course they've moved right. They're Jews living among Jews and the left has changed pretty much everywhere. You do realize Jews have fairly similar beliefs to Muslims right? Israel is the state of the Jewish people, not the Jewish God. When you have enemies inside and outside your borders, real enemies, not imagined, you figure that a shift right is an inevitable conclusion.

Why do we concern ourselves with the politics of a small country with very few people that may or may not have nuclear deterrents provided by France?

Everyone needs to stop worrying about the Jews.

[Admiral Piett]

Everyone needs to stop worrying about the Jews.

I think there are very valid concerns given how our unprecedented amount of unconditional aid only validates what the religious nutjubs classify as a western Crusade.

[ash874]

I think there are very valid concerns given how our unprecedented amount of unconditional aid only validates what the religious nutjubs classify as a western Crusade.

translation: we should be concerned about the money we give israel because the muslims consider this as casus beli

are you aware that those muslims who you are (rightfully) concerned about getting more aid (like 30 times more aid) than israel from you? (if you are indeed an american. i noticed many british people who think israel owes them too for US aid - maybe cause they speak english too)

and do you have the balls to question that aid? cause i never see all of you screwthemiddleeast guys talking about your 15bln annual aid to pakistan or 10 bln to iraq and whatever else you spend in this region

either balls or tits man. but its time to grow a pair of either

[Admiral Piett]

translation: we should be concerned about the money we give israel because the muslims consider this as casus beli

are you aware that those muslims who you are (rightfully) concerned about getting more aid (like 30 times more aid) than israel from you? (if you are indeed an american. i noticed many british people who think israel owes them too for US aid - maybe cause they speak english too)

and do you have the balls to question that aid? cause i never see all of you screwthemiddleeast guys talking about your 15bln annual aid to pakistan or 10 bln to iraq and whatever else you spend in this region

either balls or tits man. but its time to grow a pair of either

You don't pay enough attention to these threads to justify such a childish response where you make a massive assumption without even knowing anyone else's views. Look up any of the Pakistan and Iraq threads using the search function and you'll see how wrong you are. First of all, its not just the money, its all the latest equipment that Israel gets the best deals on from us and the unconditional alliance we have with you which is serving our interests with trying to open up liberalization with the Muslim world more poorly every day. Your nation out equips every one of its neighbors so your leaders should stop complaining to the US every time it has problems. (Of which your government certainly isn't helping by having a policy which resembles apartheid)

This is threatening to drag this topic off into another pissing contest so I'm dropping it.

[Orko]

OP obviously just read only a few headlines and decided he's now an expert on Israeli politics. Anyone who actually knows the slightest bit about Israeli politics knows what these results mean for Israel and that few of the OP's words are truthful.

[Slaytaninc]

OP obviously just read only a few headlines and decided he's now an expert on Israeli politics. Anyone who actually knows the slightest bit about Israeli politics knows what these results mean for Israel and that few of the OP's words are truthful.

Yes indeed. It's pretty amazing how badly the Western media called this election.

As the results showed, Israelis are much more concerned with their own lives to worry about foreign policy. After all, what good is a few more miles of the West Bank here and there when you're unemployed and heavily in debt?

[Raubritter]

Has everybody given up on debating such a mess?

Why? Where is the need? Why i should spend my time on these religious freaks? They have a rising poverty, income in average is the same as in South Korea, they force their youth to conscription, they are a lousy third or secound world banana republic, which rules think they are choosen by god, just as in so many of the countries on this world and that some of their incesters where where intentend by the nazis doesn't makes them so special.

Don't bother me anymore Israel, i'am tired of you and your desert hicksville tribal stuff.

Maybee i buy some UZI or Desert Eagle or Galil rifle in the future, but you don't produce stuff no more since the american taxpayer pays for M16 rifles your teachers carry while telling us everyone else should loose their rights to own arms. Yeah, yeah these stupid Goin just gona see what they wanna see.

[Slaytaninc]

Why? Where is the need? Why i should spend my time on these religious freaks? They have a rising poverty, income in average is the same as in South Korea, they force their youth to conscription, they are a lousy third or secound world banana republic, which rules think they are choosen by god, just as in so many of the countries on this world and that some of their incesters where where intentend by the nazis doesn't makes them so special.

Don't bother me anymore Israel, i'am tired of you and your desert hicksville tribal stuff.

Maybee i buy some UZI or Desert Eagle or Galil rifle in the future, but you don't produce stuff no more since the american taxpayer pays for M16 rifles your teachers carry while telling us everyone else should loose their rights to own arms. Yeah, yeah these stupid Goin just gona see what they wanna see.

Could you be any more insulting?

[sumskilz]

Why i should spend my time on these religious freaks?

Interesting question to ask considering you probably come from a more religious country, 67% of Israeli Jews self-identify as non-religious.

[Col. Tartleton]

Yeah, that Iron Dome looks like it kicks ass big time.

It can stop Palestinian rockets, but good luck against proper rocket artillery.



The rocket will always get through.

Interesting question to ask considering you probably come from a more religious country, 67% of Israeli Jews self-identify as non-religious.

Only 48% of American Jews said they believe in God. Only 24% were certain there was a God, and but only 19% identified as atheist. I assume most Jews are Apatheist.

Judaism just isn't that good of a religion to be honest. It's not feel good, there's no afterlife, being Jewish leads to persecution, and you're still stuck eating wine and crackers on pass over/good friday whether you're circumcised or not.

[motiv-8]

either balls or tits man. but its time to grow a pair of either

What a glowing endorsement of the Israeli approach to international relations.