does classical music

does classical music have any influence to modern music in anyway?

It certainly had an influence on The Beatles and other bands of the 60s. I think you'll find that without classical music there wouldn't be nearly as much creativity, if any.

Nearly everyone is exposed to classical music in some way. Also a lot of musicians received classical training. I'm sure this has an effect on their music. Some of them really incorporate it in their music. Sierra Casady of Cocorosie received operatic vocal training, clearly noticable in some songs. Rufus Wainwright uses a sample of Ravel's Bolero in 'Oh what a world' and just listen to 'Little sister' on 'Want Two' (In fact the whole album sounds somewhat classical, yet it is contemporary music). Beck's 'Missing' reminds me of the Bolero too (not sure why). Frank Zappa was an accomplished composer, influenced by such like Stravinsky and Varese. This became explicit in the later part of his oeuvre, but has also influenced the earlier parts.

Not exactly examples of the most popular contemporary music, but nevertheless examples.
And of course you'll remember a few rappers trying to break the charts with samples of popular classical tunes. Stay away from those. Some of those efforts really are dispicable.

Originally Posted by Octavian

I think you'll find that without classical music there wouldn't be nearly as much creativity, if any.

I'm not sure I get this. How is creativity related to classical music in such a particular way?

M

I'm not sure I get this. How is creativity related to classical music in such a particular way?

I would suggest you watch Howard Goodall's Twentieth Century Greats, the episode titled Lennon & McCartney.

Originally Posted by Octavian

I would suggest you watch Howard Goodall's Twentieth Century Greats, the episode titled Lennon & McCartney.

well, I can't. I've read the synposis, still don't get it.
So ignorant on how classical music is key to creativity I will remain.

M

Originally Posted by Mesamedasu

well, I can't. I've read the synposis, still don't get it.
So ignorant on how classical music is key to creativity I will remain.

M

Perhaps because classical composers invented...well...invented 'organised' music?

Chord progressions, rules for how melody lines interact with chords, musical textures etc whether from modern or classical music all stem from the great classical composers.

If you analyse 'popular' music, you'll find very few musical forms and motifs that weren't invented by classical composers. The blues scale is one of the exceptions, but other scales and forms of modality you find in pop are pretty much all classical in origin .

I'm not sure exactly what you are calling "classical music" (people use the term quite loosely, so it's hard to be sure how you mean it), but the classical era, along with any other important era in music, forms an essential part of the evolution of music. Without the developments that happened in the classical era (just like the baroque era before and the romantic era afterwards) music would not be what it is now. You can't take out any era in the development of something and expect it to be the same, and neither would the subsequent developments have been possible if the classical era hadn't happened.

Perhaps because classical composers invented...well...invented 'organised' music?

Chord progressions, rules for how melody lines interact with chords, musical textures etc whether from modern or classical music all stem from the great classical composers.

If you analyse 'popular' music, you'll find very few musical forms and motifs that weren't invented by classical composers. The blues scale is one of the exceptions, but other scales and forms of modality you find in pop are pretty much all classical in origin

Just to nitpick, Spadicus - technically speaking the diatonic system, the modes, the rules of counterpoint, and the theory of chord triads all existed prior to the classical era. But that's just me being a pain in the ass.

What blues did for rock classical music did for metal.

Classical music compasses renaissance, medieval, baroque, classical, romantic, anything remotely 20th century etc - it's a general genre. When you walk into HMV to buy CDs, it doesn't have 'baroque' and 'minimalist' sections .

Originally Posted by Spadicus

Classical music compasses renaissance, medieval, baroque, classical, romantic, anything remotely 20th century etc - it's a general genre. When you walk into HMV to buy CDs, it doesn't have 'baroque' and 'minimalist' sections .

Ah, so you can nitpick too? I have met my match.

True that you wont normally find Baroque in a Music store, but very technically baroque is something different than classical.
Afaik Baroque even means something like "crude" and was used in the classical period to talk about how baroque music was so much worse than the music they were making then.
Classical period also used different Instruments, Bach doesnt quite sound the same as Beethoven when you play both with only their contemporary instruments.

Originally Posted by Salazar

Afaik Baroque even means something like "crude" and was used in the classical period to talk about how baroque music was so much worse than the music they were making then.

Heeeeelllll no. Baroque's the name of an elaborate pearl.

Originally Posted by The Black Prince

the Planets

Bond and vanessa mae aren't quite in the same league as Gustav Holst .

Ooops, just looked it up and it was a term that originally meant unregular pealrs, but it still was used in a derogatory meaning.
Was also used to say "overly complex"

take modern classical music as a good example lol...

Bond, the Planets, Vanessa Mai, Libera

Classical music compasses renaissance, medieval, baroque, classical, romantic, anything remotely 20th century etc - it's a general genre. When you walk into HMV to buy CDs, it doesn't have 'baroque' and 'minimalist' sections

I truly wish they did. If there was an avant-garde section I would undoubtedly find Cage.