God Save the Rzeczpospolita

[Ace_General]

So basically this idea grew out of a reboot of GSTK and it might of mutated into its own thing

But mechanically how Im thinking of doing this is combing a modified GSTK system and combining it with some light wargamming elements

Like everyone starts out as noblemen of varying levels(again sort of like GSTK here) you have personal troops and income from your own fiefs. But where it gets different is you have a much stronger centeral government. Like you Have a standing Crown army, a royal treasury, and royal offices that give you power, money and troops. So instead of trying to get promotions and more lands, you instead have a route to power by serving the commonwealth by fighting its enemies

Like im thinking of government working like this

You have the king, who basically serves as cheif executive in the polish system.

Then you have a royal chancellor, gets a decent ammount of money and controls royal purse strings but little troops

After that, you have commanders of the royal army who get decent pay and alot of troops

Finally, you have the Hetmans, who are to be probably the most interesting postion to play. In Poland Hetmans were the regional(or as we would call it) theatre level commanders who are responsible for all military operations and the defense of a certain region or against a certain foe. I.E. Hetman of Ukraine, Prussia, Ruthania, Lithuania etc etc. Basically, you get x amount of money and troops and you have to do the foreign relations in your sector and fight the wars there unless you totally get overrun and the royal army has to clean things up.

This is where Im thinking the war-gaming part of the game can come in where you get a map of your sector, your allotment of troops, and you have to defend your important population centers and/or defeat your foes

And all of this will play into how you become king in Poland. See in the Commonwealth, becoming king was an elected office for life, so acquiring honro and glory and demonstrating your ability in war would give you a leg up in the election to king

So yeah, this is by no means a final proposal, but more just spitballing, if you have any comments or critiques or ideas to make the game better feel free to share

[Gandalfus]

Although this is interesting, I feel medieval Poland would suit better, with pagans, holy wars, the Baltic crusade/Teutonic order, with Novgorod poking its nose in as well as mongols

[Pyrrhus the Molossian]

Poland in the 1600s has plenty of enemies to fight and many interesting scenarios.

[Gandalfus]

I think the Baltic Crusade would be better, purely because:


Poland is surrounded by:

HRE
Teutons
Pagans
Russians
Scandinavians

it puts us in a fairly interesting scenario.

[Pyrrhus the Molossian]

Poland in the 1600s is surrounded by:

HRE
Russia
Ottoman Empire
Prussia
Sweden
Austria
(Some nations are in the HRE)

Which is also a very interesting scenario,

[Gandalfus]

I imagine this would be in the thirty years war?

But the Baltic crusade I like purely because of Teutons and pagans. There could be holy wars, Teutonic Knights...

Teutonic knights. I mean, come on?!

[Pyrrhus the Molossian]

There have been too many medieval rpgs. A change of pace would make it more interesting in my opinion.

[Gandalfus]

No pleasing some people...

[Pinkerton]

This seems more like a concept proposal. I believe a social group would be more adequate as the Guidelines say that proposals must be nearly finished when a thread is created in the Consulate

• Forum requests must include the intended title and sub-title of both main and sub-fora.
• All requested fora must have a specific and well outlined purpose in the context of your RPG proposal.
• Asking for several extraneous sub-fora will be frowned upon. An entire forum wasted on Registration is a good example of this.
• Include a rules set that is either complete or very near completion
• A full and updated list of LM's/Players should be maintained in the proposal thread.

(Both settings are interested. I'd love a 1600 one, but we're more experienced in Medieval RPGs)

[Trot]

I also like both settings
Social group is here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/group...w&groupid=2035

[M D]

[Dirty Chai]

[Ace_General]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/group.php?groupid=2035

Join the God Save the Rczcpospolita user group

And to y'all who say ney, the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth was righteously badass back then and actually after it was partioned a large chunk of the nobilty became Prussians lead prussia and later germany to an even more impressive reccord of face reccord

So in the words you the English men

Bugger off you Pole hating sods!!!

[Pinkerton]

Nobody said anything about "hate". We're talking about an RPG here, and some people just disagree with the general idea

So cut it off with the jingoist attitude

[Ace_General]

That was only in jest

[Dirty Chai]

Poland could be cool.

I just don't like what you're doing here.

[Ace_General]

Poland could be cool.

I just don't like what you're doing here.

I feel the mediaeval RPG has been done to death, while the Polish lithuanian commonwealth is just way more interesting and freewheeling. Like you had Legal civil wars, a landowner was soveirgn in his property, and the magnates had private armies that you could do whatever you want with and you can march your armies around and do whatever you want as long as you dont attack crown property or aid invading powers. '

You wanna try to make a pro polish pretender Czar of Russia, have at it, wanna attack your neighbor, go right ahead, raid the tatars, no problem, or serve as a mercenary in the holy roman empire, more power to you

And the commonwealth at this time was actually really diverse so thers much more opportunties to have interesting characters besides just warriors of the dominant religous-ethnic group like in a mideavel RPG.

Like I have my char as Anglo-Germanic-Polish guy whos king, another person who is the Stadthalter of Danzig and is leader of the german minority and another person who is gonna be Hungarian-Vlachian. Thats the thing why the commonwealth is awesome, you can have Poles, Ukrainans, Vlachs, Germans, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Ukranians, Lithuanians, Lipka Tatars, its all good

[M D]

I feel the mediaeval RPG has been done to death

[m_1512]

Honestly, the proposal would need a lot more material to pass. Right now, it just looks like an idea.

[m_1512]

Is this still in the works or dead?