Beyond the Dark -RPG HS (SS 6.4)-Sicily and Castille player needed

[invicta]

The Basileus and the Venetian Doxe successfully reached a peace agreement: no more war and no more blood shall be spilled in vain between us!

PS: pls everyone remember to send a pm to warn the next player that his turn is up

[Makrell]

the great dukedum of kiev have signed a NAP with the king of lithuania for 15 turns

[StOuFf]

dont trust invicta - general statement!

[invicta]

dont trust invicta - general statement!

Why..if I may ask..
is it because I referred to Jemskyil about one of your past betrayal?

In any case this was the betrayal i was referring to

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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...19#post8338219

at least no one can say I was lying

[StOuFf]

Why..if I may ask..
is it because I referred to Jemskyil about one of your past betrayal?

i simply dont and i would recommend everyone not to either
just want to drag you down to my level and beat you with experience

edit: ahh yeah the retrofit mod HS. right. damn i am an untrustworthy player
well tehn, dont trust me either, invicta is right. OR maybe you shouldnt trust any HS veteran here
Oh Hellboy i am still sorry for what i have done!

editII: oh and that was 3 years ago xD

[Sogesu]

Castile

[invicta]

editII: oh and that was 3 years ago xD

you're right, indeed I said to Jemskyl myself that I didn't see you betray often and that you can generally be trusted.
I just meant (which I thought was clear in my message) that I wouldn't trust you 100%, but 95%-99% which is enough to sign a long term solid alliance, but on the other hand I would keep an eye open, just in case.

Gladly.

Why gladly? I thought you were eager to play

[Tonno]

Eager, yes... but eager to see the blood of my dead foes under my foot, and every limitations done to them via admin console will make them suffer even more. HA HA HA!!!

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[StOuFf]

you're right, indeed I said to Jemskyl myself that I didn't see you betray often and that you can generally be trusted.
I just meant (which I thought was clear in my message) that I wouldn't trust you 100%, but 95%-99% which is enough to sign a long term solid alliance, but on the other hand I would keep an eye open, just in case.

no worries mate i was just fooling around
i know im, as you said, up to 95% trustworthy


edit: ahh damn i wanted to copy that and now i made a new post ....

[Vipman]

Stop it right here. Castille don't play yet I have to further investigate some worrisome stuff.

[Tonno]

Gladly.

[Vipman]

Oh God, why... It will take me a while to finish this, and it's not looking good at all...

[StOuFf]

whats happening anyway?
did the moors do something? ^^

[StOuFf]

thanks that kinda made my day! xD
a quick laugh between all those sheets of paper i have to study through xD

[invicta]

Guys Sogesu will be replaced by freakkriek as the new player for the Moors.
Giumbix found out that Sogesu not only broke some rules (he took Valencia with only one spy, while the rules says he needs 2, since the agent rules apply to the AI too),
but what's worse is that he cheated by exploiting the mov.bugs which was clearly forbidden (in this one like in most HS).
I guess he did that to capture AI settlements before the others.
If Giumbix wants, he might give more details.
But the sum of the story is that purposely cheating won't be tolerated. Admin has better to do than spending his time in figuring out how a player cheated.

Just a reminder for everyone:
-All the agent rules apply to the AI too, which means: you cannot use assassins to kill family members of AI factions unless you meet the requirements set by the rules, as also using only one spy to open the gates or with low chances.
-Exploiting bugs is forbidden.

If you didn't know any of that, pls read carefully the rules again.

[Vipman]

@Peanut No you can't help, but thank you anyway.


Sogesu has used the movement bug, both land and naval.

On the start of his first turn there is this army on ship and that general on the coast

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On turn 2 they are now at Ajaccio, impossible to reach with normal movement.

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At his start of turn 2 there are these 2 captains.

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I skipped all other factions to reach turn 3 and this is where he moved them:

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Last but definitely not least, these armies in Murcia:

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Most probably with that big stack took Valencia using 1 spy inside Murcia although rule says 2 are needed. This is it's (normal) maximum movement after taking it

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But looking at start of turn 2 the army that took Valencia got up to east of Zaragoza and the trebuchet army at the port of Valencia (led by Sultan that came from Granada)

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My opinion is that he should be kicked out as he's an experienced hotseat player, clearly knowing what he's doing.

Bravo Sogesu, not only you made me waste lots of hours, but you ruined your reputation. If winning HS by cheating is what makes you happy, well good for you.


Moors turn will be replayed by a new player as this turn he took Toulouse, Barcelona and Genoa, either earlier or with more units than should have been possible. Some armies will be teleported by command to where they should have been.

[invicta]

Bravo Sogesu, not only you made me waste lots of hours, but you ruined your reputation. If winning HS by cheating is what makes you happy, well good for you.

In all fariness he never had a good reputation to ruin..
He started HSing by photoshopping results of battles:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...88#post8553288
and not much changed since then.

[Peanut2bigforyou]

I had to look through the pictures several times before I knew what happened.

Cheating as the Moors seems hardly necessary. I say the admin decides what happens.

[Vipman]

There are very few hotseat players that were playing at that time and still play now. Everyone else would be willing to trust him as he doesn't know what happen in an old HS. Including me.

[Bcman]

Wow that is dumb. Cheat in single player. Not a hotseat