Not letting your princesses marry

[Comrade Roboto]

I'm playing the mod Thera. In that mod there is a faction called "Romuli empire", and thus the emperors all have Romuli as a last name. Now I want to make sure that the ones called Romuli will always be heir and leader, so I'm planning on not letting my princesses marry. As such I'm hoping to keep my family "clean".

Is that a good tactic to preserve the blood line? The other option is to kill the heir, if he is not called Romuli. But that I rather don't want to do.

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Is that a good tactic to preserve the blood line? The other option is to kill the heir, if he is not called Romuli. But that I rather don't want to do.

Yes it is, for multiple purposes - there is the RP element(i dont think it needs an explanation) and also there is what i like to call trait progression which basically is just the fathers traits being inherited by the son, as the bloodline continues undisturbed by adoptees.

What you can do is let your princesses marry to another factions heir/king to form a strong alliance(AI is less backstabby when you form marrige allainces), but its better to just find another factions princess and make her marry your own heir/king to form such an alliance and use your own princess to marry one of her cousins/uncles thus keeping the surname intact, and getting the fertile and other traits to get the babies rolling out faster, you dont have to worry about the inbred traits trough - they are a random 1% chance even if they are related, so its basically impossible to get it, but if you run across this line of traits it best to leave that FM unmarried.

[Comrade Roboto]

Ah thanks for your answer. You deserve rep for it . I never knew I could let them marry their uncle/cousin, so I can let them marry after all! But I won't be marrying my leader or heir to an other faction's princess, for the purpose of RP. Also, if I marry my princess of to some leader or heir, they won't be able to produce babies for my family.

Thanks again for your clear answer, just what I wanted to know!

[Incredible Bulk]

Well lets say he does get the inbred trait what will happen? I mean what are the consequences?

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

A Bit Odd (Inbred 1)- -1 Fertility, gained after 1 point of Inbred
Of Dubious Lineage (Inbred 2)- -2 Fertility, upgrade after 2 points of Inbred
Inbred (Inbred 3)- -1 Command, -2% Tax Income, -3 Fertility, upgrade after 3 points of Inbred
Woefully Inbred (Inbred 4)- -1 Command, -1 Authority, -5% Tax Income, -4 Fertility, upgrade after 4 points of Inbred
Spawn of Incest (Inbred 5)- -2 Command, -2 Authority, -10% Tax Income, -5 Fertility, upgrade after 5 points of Inbred
Betrothed to Mother (Inbred 6)- -3 Command, -3 Authority, -15% Tax Income, epithet "the Idiot", upgrade after 6 points of Inbred

Inbred has a NoGoingBack level of 1. On coming of age, a character gains a point of Inbred with 1% probability. A character whose father has one or more levels of Inbred gains a point with 50% and then with 25% probability. A character whose father has two or more levels of Inbred gains a point with 50% and then with 25% probability. A character whose father has three or more levels of Inbred, and then four or more levels, and then five or more levels of Inbred, same deal. This trait is awful. Do not let inbred people marry.

[Incredible Bulk]

A Bit Odd (Inbred 1)- -1 Fertility, gained after 1 point of Inbred
Of Dubious Lineage (Inbred 2)- -2 Fertility, upgrade after 2 points of Inbred
Inbred (Inbred 3)- -1 Command, -2% Tax Income, -3 Fertility, upgrade after 3 points of Inbred
Woefully Inbred (Inbred 4)- -1 Command, -1 Authority, -5% Tax Income, -4 Fertility, upgrade after 4 points of Inbred
Spawn of Incest (Inbred 5)- -2 Command, -2 Authority, -10% Tax Income, -5 Fertility, upgrade after 5 points of Inbred
Betrothed to Mother (Inbred 6)- -3 Command, -3 Authority, -15% Tax Income, epithet "the Idiot", upgrade after 6 points of Inbred

Inbred has a NoGoingBack level of 1. On coming of age, a character gains a point of Inbred with 1% probability. A character whose father has one or more levels of Inbred gains a point with 50% and then with 25% probability. A character whose father has two or more levels of Inbred gains a point with 50% and then with 25% probability. A character whose father has three or more levels of Inbred, and then four or more levels, and then five or more levels of Inbred, same deal. This trait is awful. Do not let inbred people marry.

Geez that is bad, I was asking cause i do have one with inbred traits, glad I asked

[Comrade Roboto]

one with inbred traits

You know what you gotta do .

[Comrade Roboto]

Now I don't have any marriage requests for my leader/heir. I'm stuck with the original family (son of the first leader is now leader). What can I do about that before the family dies out?

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Find a royal lady on the strat map and approach her about marrige to FL/FH. I personally use "toggle_fow" for this myself, as wandering the map about looking for one seems pointless. I suggest you dont look at the mini map or anywhere else for that matter, and just fpcus on finding a lady ready to be married, this way you dont feel like you've cheated that much.

[Comrade Roboto]

Thanks for the answer. I'm keen on keeping my bloodline "pure" so only people from my own faction. What I'd like to know why I didn't get any marriage request for my leader/heir (you know that infoscreen that begins with "bothered...")

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Thanks for the answer. I'm keen on keeping my bloodline "pure" so only people from my own faction. What I'd like to know why I didn't get any marriage request for my leader/heir (you know that infoscreen that begins with "bothered...")

Ah forgot abut that, well in that case, reloading the game and moving something will reroll the dice and give you another chanceto get an offer for marrige, so what you wnt to do is make a quick save ready to end the turn but leaving, lets say 3 agents on the map with movement points full, do a quick save now, end the turn, if you get no offer for marige then reload (ctrl + l), move 1 or 2 agents a bit and end the turn again. Repeat untill the desiered outcome.

[Incredible Bulk]

Local faction princess are hard to come by I seldom get them sonic hard to find them, in fact even other faction don't have many to choose from and the ones they do have in my case are both in their mid 40's so forget about getting kids from her

[Comrade Roboto]

I'll try that, but I'm a bit skeptical because I'm at turn 53 and I haven't had any proposals (for leader/heir) during the game. Is it because I didn't let my princess marry?

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

I'll try that, but I'm a bit skeptical because I'm at turn 53 and I haven't had any proposals (for leader/heir) during the game. Is it because I didn't let my princess marry?

Might be the case, so now that message you're looking for is overshadowed by the other offers for marrige. If the princesses you're talking about are on strat map you can marry them to their cousin/uncle or just about anyone who isnt married. If they are only in the family tree then it is a bit more difficult, you might have to edit some files to change the game at which unmarried princesses become nuns because they are too old and have not found a husband.

[Comrade Roboto]

Because then they would have to marry their brothers, and we wouldn't want that now would we? Not that it is possible of course.

Might be the case, so now that message you're looking for is overshadowed by the other offers for marrige. If the princesses you're talking about are on strat map you can marry them to their cousin/uncle or just about anyone who isnt married. If they are only in the family tree then it is a bit more difficult, you might have to edit some files to change the game at which unmarried princesses become nuns because they are too old and have not found a husband.

Yes I do get a lot of request for my princesses. And maybe that's why it's not really possible to keep your bloodline "pure", because you don't get any proposals for your leader/heir. If that's the case, I'd better let my princesses marry right? Would I then get proposals for my leader/heir? Oh and thanks for the many good answers so far Baltic Warrior, you deserve rep for it!

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Yes I do get a lot of request for my princesses. And maybe that's why it's not really possible to keep your bloodline "pure", because you don't get any proposals for your leader/heir.

You do get the chance to get a marriage proposal to your heir/leader, but it is smaller as you have others waiting in "the line" to get married. If they are strat map princesses you again can just send them to an untimely demise attacking pirate ships.

If that's the case, I'd better let my princesses marry right? Would I then get proposals for my leader/heir?

You should, but you will still have to do a bit of reloading to get the marriage proposal as soon as you can as i understand that the king is quite old by now, so you want to conserve every turn you have.

Oh and thanks for the many good answers so far Baltic Warrior, you deserve rep for it!

Thanks I guess you might call me the professional when it comes to family trees(game play wise, i am not a modder, trough i would love to get a hang of the skill).

Edit: By the way what is your family member and province count? There is a limiter implemented in the game that does not allow you to have too much children when you only have a few provinces.

[Comrade Roboto]

Edit: By the way what is your family member and province count? There is a limiter implemented in the game that does not allow you to have too much children when you only have a few provinces.

8 provinces for the leader, the heir and 2 princesses. All brothers and sisters, none of them married. Leader is 45 now and in this mod they age to 50-60 years. 2 turns per year. Anyway, I'll let my princesses marry. Seems like not doing so s things up for your leader/heir.

Also, I'd like to rep you but I have to spread it around. It's shame 'cause you seem like a friendly and helpful guy, when I look around this forum .

[tudor93]

I also like to RP when it comes to family members/bloodline/etc. and I did some searching many months ago .

If that's the case, I'd better let my princesses marry right? Would I then get proposals for my leader/heir?

I think this is true, I myself asked this months ago and I was told that this is true, though I don't know if it was tested or something.

[Incredible Bulk]

Because then they would have to marry their brothers, and we wouldn't want that now would we? Not that it is possible of course.


Yes I do get a lot of request for my princesses. And maybe that's why it's not really possible to keep your bloodline "pure", because you don't get any proposals for your leader/heir. If that's the case, I'd better let my princesses marry right? Would I then get proposals for my leader/heir? Oh and thanks for the many good answers so far Baltic Warrior, you deserve rep for it!

So you har no cousins? Or distant relative princess at all? Wow you would think you had atleast one

[Incredible Bulk]

If you faction princess available why not sent one of them to marry your leader and heir?