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    Default Multiplayer campaign vs Cao Cao

    Campaign is won by the refusal of the game dude.

    The first time we played with no rules - that is a boring game without fighting. It was my first campaign in the Fall of the Samurai. I was surprised that I could not play for the AI in the battle, and asked my opponent to fight but he refused. In the end, I decided to stop that campaign because this campaign is not like the online game. It's more like a single player campaign - not interested. I was hoping to get a learned skill but got dull boring game.

    Now he refused to play with battles, then I believe that our overall score 1:1.

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    7:36 - von Peretz: I am ready for campaign now Cao Cao
    7:36 - von Peretz: but with reealism's rule
    7:37 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: write your condition i write too , together we will find compromise
    7:37 - von Peretz: HARD difficulty and Fight all battles without 90/10
    7:37 - von Peretz: sure
    7:37 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: 90 /10 ?
    7:38 - von Peretz: whne proportion is 90% for victory
    7:38 - von Peretz: when
    7:38 - von Peretz: then autoresolve
    7:38 - von Peretz: other battles 50/50 60/40 30/70 must be fight - fair play
    7:39 - von Peretz: it is childhood to fight vs AI
    7:39 - von Peretz: autoresolve
    7:43 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: i agree with hard but not agree play all battles because : first you or i play as clan ( forexample takeda) looks not realistic when daime of takeda can control army of Oda ,second its take a lot time . i agree play all siage + Battle option : Time 60 min. Minimap turn off all battles . Opponent can play as AI , but If AI attack , then opponent play as AI must attack too ; If AI defense , then opponent play as Ai must defense too ; Forbidden flied from battle when play as AI .
    If opponent not wanna play as AI ,then player can watch battle .
    After battle finish player must wait 15 sec not close battle , waiting his opponent make battle save. If player forget to wait opponent make save , opponent have right play this battle again .
    Each player must save each battle . Players ( team ) must invite judge to control each battle .
    7:44 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: accept ?
    7:45 - von Peretz: wait I read
    7:45 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: ok
    7:46 - von Peretz: hmmm
    7:46 - von Peretz: do you think it is realistic to fight vs AI?
    7:46 - von Peretz: programm is only programm - this is multytplayer
    7:47 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: total war campaign its odel of real war operation
    7:47 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: model
    7:47 - von Peretz: sure
    7:56 - von Peretz: never )
    7:59 - von Peretz: see
    8:00 - von Peretz: when we will fight all battles (without 90/10%) we will resist for other player very well
    8:00 - von Peretz: it is multiplayer
    8:00 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: you like officer must to know what in war very important secrecy operation . opponent without agents can not to know where are his opponent army and what consist of army
    8:01 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: not interesting play battles because opponents see ary
    8:01 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: army
    8:01 - von Peretz: we will have secret operacy later when we will have 2 clan in Japan - I am and you are
    8:02 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: i think war have not law
    8:02 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: you can play battle as you wish , and your opponent too
    8:02 - von Peretz: war have many rule
    8:02 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: yes
    8:02 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: Art of war rules
    8:03 - von Peretz: remember second world war? Hitler never to use chemichal weapon
    8:03 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: did you read it ?
    8:03 - von Peretz: Sun Tzu?
    8:04 - von Peretz: sure
    8:04 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: did you read how opponents can control AI army ?
    8:04 - von Peretz: )))))))))))
    8:04 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: not own army
    8:04 - von Peretz: it is joke
    8:05 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its mistake
    8:05 - von Peretz: SHOGUN 2 is game only
    8:05 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: from CA
    8:05 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its strategy game
    8:05 - von Peretz: and multiplayer game
    8:05 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: wait
    8:06 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: player play as oda must control own army + sometimes f his opponent play against Ai can take command ai army too
    8:06 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: but not all battles play
    8:06 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its CA 1 vs 1 campaign rules
    8:07 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: not same with Napoleon
    8:07 - von Peretz: ok, last time we had campaign with your rules (fighting vs stupid AI), now I suggest real game - fight !
    8:07 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its not my rules
    8:07 - von Peretz: do you agree?
    8:07 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its CA campaign option
    8:07 - von Peretz: CA always has mistakes
    8:08 - von Peretz: you know
    8:08 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: not always
    8:08 - von Peretz: too many mistakes each time
    8:08 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: shogun 2 its near with real war tactic - strategy game
    8:08 - von Peretz: not
    8:09 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: if you can make game better than CA you have right say it
    8:09 - von Peretz: for example badly mistakes to use one feature
    8:09 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: but not now
    8:09 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: so show me your own project
    8:09 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: ?
    8:10 - von Peretz: when army has not movement points players attack by general (or cavalry) and army will reinforced
    8:10 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: people a lot speak
    8:10 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: lesson
    8:10 - von Peretz: stupid feature
    8:10 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: each player have own favorite match option
    8:10 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: i play use just CA option
    8:11 - von Peretz: it is not fair
    8:11 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: if you write letter to CA
    8:11 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: and they change it for you
    8:11 - von Peretz: for example Napoleon Russia vs France
    8:11 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: n problem
    8:12 - von Peretz: then you not agree with Fight all battles like real players?
    8:12 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: player can decide play battle or make autobattle
    8:13 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: if i dont wanna you see my army i will choose autobattle
    8:13 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: if you want i see your army - you can play all your battles
    8:13 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its your right
    8:13 - von Peretz: do you can to say - you are not agree?
    8:13 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: you can do what you want
    8:14 - von Peretz: too many words
    8:14 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: i not agree opponent see my army consist and position
    8:14 - von Peretz: maybe you scared to fight battles?
    8:15 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: i think player have not right play nt own army
    8:15 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: not own clan army
    8:15 - von Peretz: pls say only I am not agree to fight battles
    8:15 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: but if i play battle you can control AI or watch my battle with AI
    8:16 - von Peretz: say and all
    8:17 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: we can play h2h campaign with your hard difficult i agree , but we play battle by CA match rules
    8:17 - von Peretz: ok
    8:17 - von Peretz: then I check our bill of campaign 1:1
    8:18 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: ?
    8:18 - von Peretz: thanks for understanding
    8:19 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: just stupid general play war by enemy law
    8:19 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: if you redy play CA rules match ok i give you chance
    8:19 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: but shogun 2 its not napoleon
    8:20 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: tell me when you be ready back your honnor ^^
    8:25 - von Peretz: 1:1
    8:25 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: ha ha ha
    8:25 - von Peretz: you scared ?
    8:26 - von Peretz: fight battles
    8:27 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: in real war if general lose war he die , never gets second chance ., so you still live because i give you live . if you wanna back you honnor you must ask me give you second chance
    8:28 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: write me when you be ready play match by CA option
    8:28 - von Peretz: ) player who affraid to fight cant to say for honour about



    After that he behaved like a child
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    8:52 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: its funny to see officer without honnor its bad for army your country ^^
    8:53 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: now i udestand why your country always live like colony
    8:54 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: ^^
    9:02 - von Peretz: fine - your words must be published)
    9:03 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: but dont forget rules of forum ^^
    9:03 - Cao Cao 曹孟德: you joined to Art of War black list ^^
    Last edited by vonPeretz; January 09, 2013 at 01:08 PM.

  2. #2

    Default Re: Multiplayer campaign vs Cao Cao

    I have a lot of experience with Cao Cao, he is a good player but slow. He thinks this game is real war, which is sorta funny.

    I agree with Cao Cao tho on many points, playing as the AI is not right. Like he says "Not your clan" You are not AI. Also having the rule to play all battles are stupid. Most battles should and are autoresolved anything else would take to long.
    Last edited by DeliCiousTZM; January 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM.

  3. #3

    Default Re: Multiplayer campaign vs Cao Cao

    Cao Cao is a legitimately good player... he's just a bit weird sometimes. It definitely makes for more varied gameplay if you don't play all the battles as AI though, since the lesser clans are there to be crushed.

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