Serious Question

[Kalolkj]

Got a question about DE, I have 1.5.1 (apparently! When I start it up it says 1.5.1, from Gigantus' stuff). Ok.
So I've tried Vh/Vh, M/M etc. and I still get literally 10 flagships in one fleet of HE attacking me (flagships, mind you, not regular small ships) so I start with 1 small ship, and desperately try to get another out. Usually I get to turn5-7 and then they land the stack. I can't fight that massive fleet with what I have, and as this guy has pointed out in a few videos, the capital is supposed to be in a different location (the latest version is, though my capital is apparently in the earlier version, not sure why) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z_apiBcpmU

Anyways, can someone help me out? DE = my favorite faction, though they are missing quite a bit of units I understand hydras would be hard to make work and all that. (My only issue has been cold one knights, frankly they suck compared to other heavy cavalry, but whatever).

Main point is, serious issue with HE spam, they have 10 flagships rushing my base with a full stack. Can't do *************. Help please

[Reiksfart]

Got a question about DE, I have 1.5.1 (apparently! When I start it up it says 1.5.1, from Gigantus' stuff). Ok.
So I've tried Vh/Vh, M/M etc. and I still get literally 10 flagships in one fleet of HE attacking me (flagships, mind you, not regular small ships) so I start with 1 small ship, and desperately try to get another out. Usually I get to turn5-7 and then they land the stack. I can't fight that massive fleet with what I have, and as this guy has pointed out in a few videos, the capital is supposed to be in a different location (the latest version is, though my capital is apparently in the earlier version, not sure why) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z_apiBcpmU

Anyways, can someone help me out? DE = my favorite faction, though they are missing quite a bit of units I understand hydras would be hard to make work and all that. (My only issue has been cold one knights, frankly they suck compared to other heavy cavalry, but whatever).

Main point is, serious issue with HE spam, they have 10 flagships rushing my base with a full stack. Can't do *************. Help please

Hydra.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=582064

The cold one knights have a strange skeleton/animation and their effectiveness was low compared to similar cavalry. I've fixed them without increasing unit stats, but they still have an issue with lowering the lances on the charge sometimes.

[Kalolkj]

So I should try to reinstall with the link? That's what I used to install it the first time just fyi. I saw that thread (and the hydra ) but is that link for the mass HE spam? not quite sure sorry :S

[Reiksfart]

There is no link, I was just showing you the pic of the hydra so I didn't have to repost it.

[Kalolkj]

Gotcha, no word on that ton of flagships?

[Reiksfart]

Gotcha, no word on that ton of flagships?

The campaign script will have to be modified. Should be simple to find, just search for the high elf ships (whatever they are named) and lower the amount of ships which spawn.

I've written that down on my list of to do changes for my submod campaign. Player should have a chance of taking out a spawned enemy at sea.

[Steampunker]

What happened to me (playing on easy/easy, though) was that my DE generals were so good that I managed to repel that HE stack assaulting my capital, and all the following ones (every handful of turns, HE assaulted me with a fullish stack). Also, assassins are your friends.
DE is one of the factions with the hardest start.

[Kalolkj]

Yes the stupid assassin in my game can't kill the enemy general, tried dozens of times. Also what about that capital switch, because my capital is still in a different place than where it apparently should be.

(Also awesome manticore, is that your sbmod?)

What I'm considering (which I'll try now) is to cheat and give the Assassin the best stats (since that's the way that breaks the immersion the LEAST)... I hope that will dissuade the general even if he's right next to my city lol when he lands.

(How do I edit posts so I don't keep double posting) Also, if this helps there is a long strip of water on the western most part of the map... any idea if that's helpful?

[IrishBlood]

What you could do, and this is a bit radical so bear with me, is play the dark elves completly differently.

Since their campagin is a bit broken, abandon it. Instead of trying to cling onto your cities, just leave them and migrate somewhere else. You really shouldnt be too attached to them because lore wise the DE are in the region on a massive raid, so their not too concerned with holding onto some pretty bleak settlements in norseca.

Instead, make as many units as you can before the HE rape you, sell ALL your buildings in all your settlements, make a couple of ships, and send EVERYTHING you have to marienburg.

BEST. RAID. EVER.

Capture the city and start from scratch. After 20 or so turns the money will pump into your treasury and theres plenty of room to expand into the rebel and beastman territory in the surrounding regions. Eventually you'll be strong enough to make a serious expansion and you have plenty of options, Nulin, Aldorf and Middenheim (3 of the richest cities in the empire) are within resonable striking distance, and if you manage to control all of them then you pretty much have infinite money

I think the idea of desperatly trying to defend a couple of settlements in Norseca is pretty pointless as it goes against the lore, the DE like to raid weak, defenceless targets, so let the empire feel your wrath! The HE can have Norseca, the empires where the loots at!

[Ivar the Boneless]

What you could do, and this is a bit radical so bear with me, is play the dark elves completly differently.

Since their campagin is a bit broken, abandon it. Instead of trying to cling onto your cities, just leave them and migrate somewhere else. You really shouldnt be too attached to them because lore wise the DE are in the region on a massive raid, so their not too concerned with holding onto some pretty bleak settlements in norseca.

Instead, make as many units as you can before the HE rape you, sell ALL your buildings in all your settlements, make a couple of ships, and send EVERYTHING you have to marienburg.

BEST. RAID. EVER.

Capture the city and start from scratch. After 20 or so turns the money will pump into your treasury and theres plenty of room to expand into the rebel and beastman territory in the surrounding regions. Eventually you'll be strong enough to make a serious expansion and you have plenty of options, Nulin, Aldorf and Middenheim (3 of the richest cities in the empire) are within resonable striking distance, and if you manage to control all of them then you pretty much have infinite money

I think the idea of desperatly trying to defend a couple of settlements in Norseca is pretty pointless as it goes against the lore, the DE like to raid weak, defenceless targets, so let the empire feel your wrath! The HE can have Norseca, the empires where the loots at!

I totally agree.Thats the only right way to play DE. And it's very close to lore + a lot of fun. Raid, loot, destroy and leave to find another weak target. There are a lot of settlements very close to shore.
Also use dark riders and crossbows a lot. They are very powerfull in the right hands.

[Kalolkj]

Yes I considered this but was wondering about the fact that my game may not be totally up-to-date... I've been spamming this thread with things like that but yes I'll try that way, as I knew that it was essentially futile to try anything in terms of holding it before I got some kind of fix or update (if there is any)