Sharia law curtailing Womens rights in Indonesia.

[Lord Baratheon]

Muslim women in Aceh province have been banned from riding motorbikes in a certain fashion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20896966
This follows similar laws telling women what type of trousers they can wear a few years back along with others.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8329804.stm

In what kind of nightmarish society should the Govt tell people how to ride motorbikes or wear their jeans.
Only re-inforces my point that Shariah law is a rotten ideology that is an enemy of liberty. Surely this has entered the realms of madness?

Sharia law, delivering the Orwellian nightmare since the seventh Century.

Discuss.As some people have taken offense,I repeat that I am not labelling all religion/religious people.

[Menelik_I]

I am sorry for oppressing Women in Aceh by being a protestant Christian ... oh wait, the title of the thread is dumb.

[Col. Tartleton]

In fairness it has nothing to do with Islam. Some of the alluded to laws do, but not the central ones the articles are focusing on.

We have absurd laws in the US too. I don't blame them on Capitalism because they aren't relevant to our religion. Though that's because my god is greater than their god.



I love the smell of hedonism in the morning. Not as big a fan of the cocaine drips.

[I WUB PUGS]

I feel she smells of fish sticks and crusty semen.

As for Indonesia. I've often heard it said that it is the most populous Muslim country with the fewest practicing Muslims.

Its fine though. Indonesia is the country where Barack Hussein Obama became a Jihadist.

[Col. Tartleton]

I feel she smells of fish sticks and crusty semen.

Sounds like a Tuesday.

As for Indonesia. I've often heard it said that it is the most populous Muslim country with the fewest practicing Muslims.

Whereas America is the most populous Christian country with the most practicing Christians.

Its fine though. Indonesia is the country where Barack Hussein Obama became a Jihadist.

Yep.

The Paris law banning women from wearing trousers applied to all women. So is secularism slowly eroding France?

France was a very religious country until like yesterday. Wasn't that law over two centuries old? Yeah it was. That dates from 1799. Before Napoleon even.

It's illegal to curse in a lot of towns in the US. These laws aren't enforced because they'd be illegal, but the congressional bodies don't have time/don't bother to get rid of laws except when there's a problem with something.

[mongrel]

France was a very religious country until like yesterday. Wasn't that law over two centuries old? Yeah it was.

Which makes it secular, because we all know that the French Revolution took place shortly before. By gum, the lack of awareness of European Culture on this thread never ceases to amaze me.

[Col. Tartleton]

Which makes it secular, because we all know that the French Revolution took place shortly before. By gum, the lack of awareness of European Culture on this thread never ceases to amaze me.

Well regardless, then if it was secular decision that goes back to my earlier point that American laws are retarded too. Democratic assemblies do silly things.

[Lord Baal]

Religions in general are awful but harmless fairy tales, religious governments (read idiots using religion to mass control other idiots) are dangerous and should be banned/over-trowed as soon as possible.

[Himster]

Indonesia is a throcracy, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.

[motiv-8]

Indonesia is a throcracy, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.

LOL, no it's not. Aceh is the only province which has sharia, and that's only tangentially related to both the subject discussed by the articles and society in Aceh. The rest of Indonesia despite being 90% Muslim is a multiconfessional secular state, with a couple provinces only having a tiny minority of Musims at all. Indonesia is listed as a Free Democracy by Freedom House.

I mean come on, you were so wrong with this claim that it seems like you didn't even bother looking at a Wiki article on Indonesia before posting. Horrible.

[Himster]

Aceh is the only province which has sharia, and that's only tangentially related to both the subject discussed by the articles and society in Aceh.
The rest of Indonesia despite being 90% Muslim is a multiconfessional secular state, with a couple provinces only having a tiny minority of Musims at all.

We're not talking about Indonesia as a whole, just it's theocratic province: Aceh.

[NRohirrim]

We're not talking about Indonesia as a whole, just it's theocratic province: Aceh.

In the topic I see word Indonesia, not Aceh.

[Blaze86420]

LOL, no it's not. Aceh is the only province which has sharia, and that's only tangentially related to both the subject discussed by the articles and society in Aceh. The rest of Indonesia despite being 90% Muslim is a multiconfessional secular state, with a couple provinces only having a tiny minority of Musims at all. Indonesia is listed as a Free Democracy by Freedom House.

I mean come on, you were so wrong with this claim that it seems like you didn't even bother looking at a Wiki article on Indonesia before posting. Horrible.

And even if it wasn't secular, that doesn't make it a theocracy, I don't understand what it's going to take before people learn the meaning of that word.

We're not talking about Indonesia as a whole, just it's theocratic province: Aceh.

You said Indonesia is a theocracy, which is false. And now you're backtracking and saying Aceh is a theocracy, which is still false.

[Richard]

Indonesia is a throcracy, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last.

Fail. Indonesia is secular, Aceh is a theocracy (somewhat). And fought a war to get there, interestingly.

[mongrel]

Muslim women in Aceh province have been banned from riding motorbikes in a certain fashion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20896966
This follows similar laws telling women what type of trousers they can wear a few years back along with others.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8329804.stm

In what kind of nightmarish society should the Govt tell people how to ride motorbikes or wear their jeans.
Only re-inforces my point that Shariah law is a rotten ideology that is an enemy of liberty. Surely this has entered the realms of madness?

Sharia law, delivering the Orwellian nightmare since the seventh Century.

Discuss.

This has no relevance to my religion, or that of most of the planet, so why the misleading title.

Paris had a trouser ban for women as late as last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-repealed.html

What kind of Orwellian society would ban women wearing jeans, yes an agressively secular one, apparently.

Come back with something less likely to fail.

[hellheaven1987]

It is Aceh, supposely the most conservative region in Indonesia. Indonesia, although identity itself as an Islamic state, cannot afford to not go multiculture as a large chulk of its population in eastern provinces is not Muslims.

[mongrel]

There seems to be more than the usual number of these threads around at the moment. Is there anything going on to inspire these? Are there instructions going around telling people to annoy the forum. What's going on?

[╬Ritterbruder╬]

There seems to be more than the usual number of these threads around at the moment. Is there anything going on to inspire these? Are there instructions going around telling people to annoy the forum. What's going on?

don't know if there is an actual event that can be the source for it.

what I have noticed is that a lot of OP from similar threads are people with <250 posts, so relatively fresh

[Sir Adrian]

Muslim women in Aceh province have been banned from riding motorbikes in a certain fashion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20896966
This follows similar laws telling women what type of trousers they can wear a few years back along with others.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8329804.stm

In what kind of nightmarish society should the Govt tell people how to ride motorbikes or wear their jeans.
Only re-inforces my point that Shariah law is a rotten ideology that is an enemy of liberty. Surely this has entered the realms of madness?

Sharia law, delivering the Orwellian nightmare since the seventh Century.

Discuss.

While dumb neither of those laws have anything to do with religion. Also I was not aware that riding a scooter in a certain fashion or wearing a certain type of pants were civil liberties.

I doubt either of them will actually be enforced.

[hellheaven1987]

That depends; Islamists have tried to push the independence of Aceh for decades and Indonesia government has trouble to stop them - it is possible the central government would pretend it does not see this in order to preserve the unity of Indonesia.