Can't take Minas Morgul...

[scorpio_69]

I'm playing as Gondor, and I have been weathering stack upon stack of orcs that have have been sent against me in E. Osgiliath and Cair Andros. I have finally picked up enough troops to take Henneth Annun and the wooden castle south east of Osgiliath; however I still lack the strength to take Minas Morgul. I have enough power right now to maintain a strong stack, so I figured I should plop them in the forest west of Minas Morgul to keep an eye on troop movements and respond accordingly. Or is there a better place to keep my troops? Should I just divide them up on the four settlements? I feel this will significantly weaken my position and make me helpless facing a full stack attack, so I'm not sure what to do.

[lesterthenerd]

you playing on vh/vh? if so i suggest you play on h/h.

[FC Groningen]

try to avoid both fighting in the settlement and the garrison script that comes with it. There are usually plenty of smaller armies running around Minas Morgul. Attack one of these that are standing next to the settlement and the garrison will be drawn out. Defeat it and you can march in freely.

[mondpeiler]

do as FC Groningen sais or, if there are several armies around, attack them and release the prisoners.
they will retreat to Minas Morgul and if you then siege the town, the garrison will not be as huge as it would be as an empty settlement.

[Bowmaster]

do as FC Groningen sais or, if there are several armies around, attack them and release the prisoners.
they will retreat to Minas Morgul and if you then siege the town, the garrison will not be as huge as it would be as an empty settlement.

Why would you do that?

Attack an army next to the settlement, and the Minas Morgul garrison will come in battle as reinforcement. Kill everybody in the battlefield, and execute the prisoners. Or you can ransom, the AI never agrees to it anyway.
Then the settlement will appear empty, and you can march in and tadaa! Minas Morgul is your's.

[dannyalex]

if u have a full stack siege Minas Morgul and wait to to fight them when they are coming out of there....keep ur infantry front archers back and if u have some catapults no ballitas put them back also for obvious reasons.

i find pretty easy hold Mordor at the bridge that connects Ithilien with dead marshes numerous clear victories there,and then i invade the plain of Mordor

let them have the other settlement of Ithilien (down) this way u will not have to keep a big army there only a small garrison,if this region fall to Harad u will forced to defend it heavily

[son of romans]

To take Minas Morgul,just do this-If there is not a nazgul in command,just take 4 units of generals bodyguard and attack the city,at their turn they orcs will sail force to attack,move you cavalry on edge of the map,wait orcs to come close,then avoid them,run with one battalion in Minas-Morgul center plaza,and with rest 3 battalions you must defend the entrance,put your generals in gurad mode and wait time to expire,and maybe you will lose 4-6 men!

[mondpeiler]

@ Bowmaster:
if he can, he should go with Groningens idea, but my advice is for the case that he can't directly draw out the garrison...
often Mordors armies block the road to Minas Morgul, so he has to fight through.
and if he then not release the prisoners, then Minas Morgul has too much empty slots for the garrison script - and your army is weakened!
that was what I ment - if he can attack an army and draw out the garrison then it is surely better. but that's not allways the case.
so my advice is a kind of back-up-plan.

[Bowmaster]

Thanks @Mondpeiler, now I understand. I thought the Garrison Script appears even if there'd be a full stack stationed there.

[scostens]

Siege minas morgul with an archer-heavy army, then get them to sally.
Usually there is a steep hill on or near your side of the battlefield.
Simply occupy, wait and watch as your archers merrily demolish any orc army trying to scale the hill.
If necessary charge the remainder with infantry.

[Alkarin]

Groningens got the right idea.