Italian Front?

**Turtler** · December 31, 2012, 07:16 PM

Alright, sorry for pinging this off, particularly this early in the game (with version 5 on the way), but I figured it might be worth throwing out.

What would everyone think of using the Northern Italian map for a "minicampaign" or "Minimod" (like the Lawrence of Arabia or WWII spinoffs) of the war between the Habsburg Empire and Italy (with German and Western Allied assistance respectively, of course...)?

Granted, this isn't to say it would be easy, especially given that balance would be an issue since by now outside of the "Unredeemed" Northeast, most of the map had been united with Italy (and what's left would be French in the Northwest, which would also be Allied....), but given how little love this theater has had in most media, it seemed like it might be interesting.

Again, just throwing this out there, but what says everyone?

**Aanker** · December 31, 2012, 07:18 PM

We have discussed more mini-campaigns like that for the future, like an Austrian breakthrough scenario, but that would definitely be post-5.0.

**Turtler** · December 31, 2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Aanker

We have discussed more mini-campaigns like that for the future, like an Austrian breakthrough scenario, but that would definitely be post-5.0.

I would expect nothing less. Have to put the right foot forward first, after all. Didn't mean this to be taken as a sort of whine or protest thread demanding the goodies now. But I was just wondering if we could start canvassing for interest, and maybe setting down planning.

**BigDogDavis** · December 31, 2012, 08:04 PM

If we're going to discuss alternate Scenarios, how about a mod for the Empire Warpath Map where Mexico does join the Axis

**Turtler** · December 31, 2012, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by BigDogDavis

If we're going to discuss alternate Scenarios, how about a mod for the Empire Warpath Map where Mexico does join the Axis

Not a bad idea, Big Dog, but it'd be best if we brought that up in the proper forum. I'm not sure the NTW team could assist us with that, given how busy they are.

Anyway, at the risk of sounding like a captain obvious, here's a faction list for any North Italian map, though the question would naturally be how we would handle issues of Command and Control, considering that historically all the Western Allied units in Italy were under Italian command. However, historically there also wan't a threat of Habsburg and German stormtroopers cutting their way to the French Rivieria....

Allies: The Kingdom of Italy: Our primary Allied protagonist. No surprises here.
* France: Toughie, given how they have territory that is represented in the map, but also troops that were historically deployed with the Italians (and under Italian command). The question here is whether the players would want France to be a separate nation in and of itself, or whether it would be a source of recrutiable units for the Italian player.

* United Kingdom: Historically- especially after Capporetto- the British maintained a few units in supporting roles on this front, both to help instruct the Italian military and to provide assistance where need be. If I had to guess, the best way to simulate these guys is to have them be recruitable for the Italians, mainly in a port city like (say) Genoa.

* United States: See UK, only even later and less influential.

* Czechoslovak Legions: The ones in Russian service get all the attention, but historically the Italians spent a great deal of effort recruiting them from Austro-Hungarian POWs, and they were hardly weak. Most likely, they seem like an elite "gift" unit, like the Cistapline Legion in the Vanilla game.

Will get to work on Central Powers in a bit. (Real life complications. Speaking of which: Happy New Year's everyone!)

**BigDogDavis** · December 31, 2012, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Turtler

Not a bad idea, Big Dog, but it'd be best if we brought that up in the proper forum. I'm not sure the NTW team could assist us with that, given how busy they are.

Aren't some of the members of TGW also working on the Empire WWI?

**Turtler** · December 31, 2012, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by BigDogDavis

Aren't some of the members of TGW also working on the Empire WWI?

I'm not sure I know, but even if there are this isn't the right thread, or the right subforum. If you'd be interested in prompting them, you probably would be better off going to the ETGW subforum.

In the meantime, wouldn't it be better if we kept this thread dedicated to the possibility (however slim/imaginary) of working on an Italian Campaign sub mod?

**BigDogDavis** · December 31, 2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Turtler

I'm not sure I know, but even if there are this isn't the right thread, or the right subforum. If you'd be interested in prompting them, you probably would be better off going to the ETGW subforum.

In the meantime, wouldn't it be better if we kept this thread dedicated to the possibility (however slim/imaginary) of working on an Italian Campaign sub mod?

Right, I was just pitching something.

Anyways, didn't the Italian front have more pitched battles than the Western front?