Tolkien General Discussion II

[athanaric]

Thank you for such an in-depth response. I find it fascinating that Sauron's end goal is actually to benefit other people in the best way he knows how to, albeit causing a lot of suffering along the way to do so.

It also shows that the 2003 RotK movie adaptation directly went against lore when the WK (in the extended cut) and Gothmog (who was portrayed as an orc for some reason) proclaimed their intention to end the world of Men.

[Steward Denethor II]

Why did the Stewards marry so late? Denethor was in his 50's when he had Faramir, and his late 40's when he sired Boromir. Boromir died at age 41 unmarried. Faramir marries after the war. Do the Gondorian elite grow up a lot slower, or is this just a logical mistake Tolkien made? You would think a Steward would want to have legitimate sons as soon as possible.

[Infidel144]

Tolkien noted this in App A:
"Though war never ceased on their borders, for more than a thousand years the Dúnedain of the South grew in wealth and power by land and sea, until the reign of Atanatar II, who was called Alcarin, the Glorious. Yet the signs of decay had then already appeared; for the high men of the South married late, and their children were few. The first childless king was Falastur, and the second Narmacil I, the son of Atanatar Alcarin."
So, not a mistake.

[Araval]

New book of unpublished writings by Tolkien coming in 2021! https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules...?post_id=25290

[Jurand of Cracow]

Does the Tolkien society discern the computer games? I see the awards for artwork, articles or websites, but no mention of movies or games?

[King Athelstan]

It doesn't look like it unfortunately

[Morifea]

New book of unpublished writings by Tolkien coming in 2021! https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules...?post_id=25290

It is already noted as an addition to the History of Middle Earth. I`m very exited.

[Red Viper]

Lol, despite having heard it for ages, I realized only today that Led Zeppelin had a mention to Mordor and Gollum on "Ramble on"

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Ramble on

Leaves are falling all around
It’s time I was on my way
Thanks to you I’m much obliged
For such a pleasant stay
But now it’s time for me to go
The autumn moon lights my way
For now I smell the rain
And with it pain
And it’s headed my way

Ah, sometimes I grow so tired
But I know I’ve got one thing I got to do

Ramble on
And now’s the time, the time is now
To sing my song
I’m goin’ ‘round the world, I got to find my girl
On my way
I’ve been this way ten years to the day
Ramble on
Gotta find the queen of all my dreams

Got no time for spreadin’ roots
The time has come to be gone
And thoough our health we drank a thousand times
It’s time to ramble on

Ramble on
And now’s the time, the time is now
To sing my song
I’m going ‘round the world, I got to find my girl
On my way
I’ve been this way ten years to the day
I gotta ramble on
I gotta find the queen of all my dreams

I ain’t tellin’ no lie
Mine’s a tale that can’t be told
My freedom I hold dear
How years ago in days of old
When magic filled the air
‘T was in the darkest depths of Mordor
I met a girl so fair
But Gollum, and the evil one
Crept up and slipped away with her
Her, her, yeah
Ain’t nothing I can do, no

I guess I keep on rambling
I’m gonna, yeah, yeah, yeah
Sing my song (I gotta find my baby)
I gotta ramble on, sing my song
Gotta work my way around the world baby, baby
Ramble on, yeah
Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, my baby
Doo, doo, doo, doo
Doodoo doodoo doodoo doodoo doodoo

I gotta keep searching for my baby
(Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby)
I gotta keep-a-searchin’ for my baby
(My, my, my, my, my, my, my baby)
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I can’t find my bluebird
I listen to my bluebird sing
I can’t find my bluebird
I keep rambling, baby
I keep rambling, baby

You should search for the Battle of Evermore, also from Led Zeppelin

Queen of Light took her bow
And then she turned to go,
The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom
And walked the night alone.
Oh, dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The dark Lord rides in force tonight
And time will tell us all.
Oh, throw down your plow and hoe,
Rest not to lock your homes.
Side by side we wait the might
Of the darkest of them all.
I hear the horses' thunder
Down in the valley blow,
I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon,
Waiting for the eastern glow.
The apples of the valley hold,
The seas of happiness,
The ground is rich from tender care,
Repay, do not forget, no, no.
Oh, dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The apples turn to brown and black, the tyrant's face is red.
Oh the war is common cry, pick up you swords…

And also "Misty Mountain Hop" from Led Zeppelin

[Araval]

I already checked the date and it was indeed not April the 1st.

The Lord of the Rings franchise is getting a new anime feature:



It will tell the story of Helm Hammerhand.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/l...on-1234993740/


Better news than trying to sell the LotR trilogy for the Xth time. I'd have liked live action better but I hope it will be high quality animation at least.

[Veteraan]

Well, let's hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Seems some talented folks are involved though.

[King Athelstan]

I'm lowkey hyped for this - I think the style might suit it better than some live action halfway-cash grab. And we'll be getting some live action Tolkien soon enough, so I'm pretty positive towards this!

[Roma_Victrix]

I'm lowkey hyped for this - I think the style might suit it better than some live action halfway-cash grab. And we'll be getting some live action Tolkien soon enough, so I'm pretty positive towards this!

Salacious, bawdy and risque Hentai Rohirrim lady outfits revealing naughty ankles and wrists INCOMING!!!!!!

I'd watch it, not gonna lie. That's saying a lot for me too, since I watched the Mandalorian one time through but would never watch the Star Wars animated stuff. Seems too cheesy. Someone should make a meme about me being a hypocrite in regards to that and LOTR anime.

[Araval]

Amazon feeds us the first image from the show!

On September 2, 2022, a new journey begins.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Turkafinwë]

Is looking very good (though I never doubted it would look bad with such a budget). I am fearful of how they are going to deal with the content though. Let's wait and see I suppose

[Araval]

I'm thinking why drop an image from the First Age? It looks like a big deal of attention investment into the First Age. Could it be for more than just a prologue or flashback? Perhaps even the reported two-part pilot is entirely set in the First Age?

[Turkafinwë]

It would be great to see some background info from the First Age (I love the First Age). It could give the story backbone to base itself on. I would totally support a two part pilot set in the First Age to see some First Age Sauron and Sons of Fëanor, etc. etc.

[Araval]

A preview for The Nature of Middle-earth has also been released: https://preview.aer.io/The_Nature_of...earth-NDAxNzU2

[Flinn]

Oh my, the nostalgia every time I see this thread

[Araval]

Apparently the rights to make movies and video games based on the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are being sold by Zaentz Co. for at least $2 billion: https://variety.com/2022/film/news/l...le-1235176036/

I doubt WB / New Line will try to get them because they are currently going through a merger with Discovery.

[Araval]

First concept art has been released from War of the Rohirrim:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The release is set for April 2024.