Besieging army disappeared?

[Forth Eorlingas!]

I'm playing as the Silvan Elves and quite large army of Misty Mountain Orcs besieged Cerin Amroth in the forest and then just disappeared as the end turn ritual completed... is this supposed to happen?

Perhaps a bug or something?

[Arlin]

Did you run a spy or some troops around the area? Armies can disappear when laying an ambush.

[Forth Eorlingas!]

Did you run a spy or some troops around the area? Armies can disappear when laying an ambush.

I do have a spy in the general area but it was weird. One minute they were besieging and the next they disappeared.

But later on another orc army besieged the same city and it maintained siege.

Unusual.

[Bcman]

Only 1 reason why. MAGIC

[Bowmaster]

Did you have the 'Show CPU Movements' on? It might show you where they went.

[Macilrille]

Sometimes that MTW Engine do strange things, I have seen many sieges like that in Vanilla and RTW.

It is less in TATW, but it could be the reason.

[Forth Eorlingas!]

Yeah might just be some weird AI movement.. needless to say they came back a few turns later with 10 balrogs and cleaned me out.

[kahnage]

Yeah might just be some weird AI movement.. needless to say they came back a few turns later with 10 balrogs and cleaned me out.

where the hell did they get 10 balrogs from?

i thought the one in Moria was the last one alive in the entirety of Middle Earth? (and the only one in the game)

[Forth Eorlingas!]

where the hell did they get 10 balrogs from?

i thought the one in Moria was the last one alive in the entirety of Middle Earth? (and the only one in the game)

Well I did besiege Moria and then retreated later to take care of a different battle but they had only a single unit however that unit had 10 Balrogs.

Destroyed an entire army of Silvan Heavy Archers before they died.

[Arlin]

My trick against balrogs is very simple. I never let them leave Moria. Every game I'm in a position to take Moria, I send a full stack at the place. Garrison pops the balrogs and I just wait out the 10-13 turns. Takes the unit of 10 down to only 2-3 if the OotMM even sally. So far, 2 of 3 times I've besieged Moria they never sallied and I was just given the settlement without having to fight.

[The Norseman]

They just retreated. It has happened a thousand times to me. If for example I move a full stack to intercept their sieging army, they often fall back into their region. Another reason could be that another faction is sieging one of their cities and they have to counter the attack by retreating their men. If they got balrogs it is probably either because you, or an AI faction sieged Moria and activated the garrison script, thus activating the balrogs.

[Forth Eorlingas!]

haha that's almost cheating.. almost..

but it sucks having to fight them, I think they're the most powerful unit in the game?

hmm Sauron, Ents, Balrog..

[Coldfire88]

haha that's almost cheating.. almost..

but it sucks having to fight them, I think they're the most powerful unit in the game?

hmm Sauron, Ents, Balrog..

There should be a battle where all 3 of them fight each other. my money is on the ents, even tho I never saw them fight

[Arlin]

I'd bet on the ents too. I have used them in the MOS mod as Lorien. They are ungodly strong. I just send them in before my army (since they'll disappear after a few turns anyway) and I've had them kill over 1000 in a single battle. They're crazy. o.O

[Forth Eorlingas!]

I'd bet on the ents too. I have used them in the MOS mod as Lorien. They are ungodly strong. I just send them in before my army (since they'll disappear after a few turns anyway) and I've had them kill over 1000 in a single battle. They're crazy. o.O

so even if the die do they come back later or do you have to send some back to get them back afterwards?

[Arlin]

They kept spawning every so often. The game would give me a unit of 20 (which was actually 10 ents in battle) and eventually say something about the ents have returned to Fangorn or some such so they would then disappear from my army. Within another 10-20 turns another unit of them would arrive in Fangorn. I don't think there is a limit to them. Only difficulty is using them effectively before their time limit is up.

[mulinjohe]

But later on another orc army besieged the same city and it maintained siege.

[Forth Eorlingas!]

yeah it's hard getting them across the map to the vital locations