Lack of blood and guts in the TW series

[issler]

I really hate the lack of blood spilling and heads and arms being cut in the TW series. It takes the 'human' element out of war. Just outflanking/routing AI armies doesn't do it for me: it'd be nice to see more gore from now on (esp. RTW II).

Does anyone feel this too?

[Pazu the Kitsune]

I really hate the lack of blood spilling and heads and arms being cut in the TW series. It takes the 'human' element out of war. Just outflanking/routing AI armies doesn't do it for me: it'd be nice to see more gore from now on (esp. RTW II).

Does anyone feel this too?

Absolutely not. The Total War series has worked out just fine without the things you described, and thank god they havent stooped to that level.....there are waaay too many games out there that are essentially just that, bloody and gory with very little in the way of return playability....also keep in mind that this would give Total War games an 'M' rating, needlessly cutting into their sales. If you really want that kindof....stuff then try out another game or take the initiative to create a mod.

[issler]

Absolutely not. The Total War series has worked out just fine without the things you described, and thank god they havent stooped to that level.....there are waaay too many games out there that are essentially just that, bloody and gory with very little in the way of return playability....also keep in mind that this would give Total War games an 'M' rating, needlessly cutting into their sales. If you really want that kindof....stuff then try out another game or take the initiative to create a mod.

wait, TMI..
I said keep the graphics but insert some gore would make the game more realistic

If you want that kind of stuff I recommend Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. Removing limbs from body has never been easier than it is in that game.

lol good one

[DDWingate]

there are waaay too many games out there that are essentially just that, bloody and gory with very little in the way of return playability

Except TW is one of those games that should have blood and guts, considering it's supposed to accurately portray old warfare

Of course, the blood pack DLC was a joke. They should do a DLC, but not with splattered screens and crimson waterfalls.

Medieval 2 had blood stains remember everyone? That is, if your PC was good enough to run it on high graphics

[TheDarkKnight]

If you want that kind of stuff I recommend Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. Removing limbs from body has never been easier than it is in that game.

[The Despondent Mind]

Mods can gives that , or dlc's...

[oppaiO_O]

buy shogun2
buy blood dlc
enjoy blood splatters

[Xerrop]

I really hate the lack of blood spilling and heads and arms being cut in the TW series. It takes the 'human' element out of war. Just outflanking/routing AI armies doesn't do it for me: it'd be nice to see more gore from now on (esp. RTW II).

Aside from gunpowder artillery there would be few other weapons being able to cut heads and whole arms. With Bows, Spears, Swords, Muskets and Bayonets you will only inflict smaller wound on enemy soldiers. And dirt plus smaller blood splatters are already present in games like M2:TW and TW:S2. No need to demand much more. There were not many heads flying around during historical battles.

TW-Games are mainly about grand strategy. No need to include 18+ Shooter game mechanics for single soldiers.

[Éorl]

I wager most people who demand gore and blood would be surprised how little blood compared to the fountains they probably imagine spills out if you chop off a head or a limb. In most cases the shock suffices to stop the blood flow (heart stops because of shock -> no more blood presure -> no blood splatter and fountains). Bohoo.

It's also amusing how they demand blood and gore for realism, but not soldiers having an involuntary release of fecal matter, which would happen quite a lot in battle.

So it's this discussion again? YAWN.

[TheDarkKnight]

It's also amusing how they demand blood and gore for realism, but not soldiers having an involuntary release of fecal matter, which would happen quite a lot in battle.

So it's this discussion again? YAWN.

Don't you know? In the TW games it's mandatory for every soldier to evacuate their bowels before a battle, to prevent such a thing.

That's actually why we never see it in game...

[Éorl]

Nope, they're wearing diapers.

[gaunty14]

I wager most people who demand gore and blood would be surprised how little blood compared to the fountains they probably imagine spills out if you chop off a head or a limb. In most cases the shock suffices to stop the blood flow (heart stops because of shock -> no more blood presure -> no blood splatter and fountains). Bohoo.

It's also amusing how they demand blood and gore for realism, but not soldiers having an involuntary release of fecal matter, which would happen quite a lot in battle.

So it's this discussion again? YAWN.

I'd actually quite like to see a feature where low level morale units /piss themselves in the face of an oncoming charge from a unit that causes fear. Nothing too big or drastic to distract from main gameplay though.

[sickpeople]

actually there were quite a few weapons inflicting serious wounds, like scythed chariots, boiling oil, greek fire, falxs etc.
i think gore would be more set as an dlc or mod.

[Maklodes]

Are there any good documented cases of battlefield decapitation? Not post-battle executions by beheading, but just a case of someone's head getting cut off in the course of battle? I haven't searched exhaustively, but the only case I've found is Baba Deep Singh, who was allegedly decapitated in the course of battle with Afghans. However, the same stories claim he kept fighting after his decapitation since he was a mystical sikh martyr. Anyone know any better-documented cases?

[Éorl]

Actually severing the neck with one stroke is not that easy and needs practice. I believe actual decapitations as a direct result of fighting in battle belong more into the realm of fantasy. In a melee, you also wouldn't have the space required to swing your weapon appropriately, I think you would rather stab or chop depending on your weapon.

[magpie]

Hmm, I do not think one needs massive amounts of gore to be shown.
Perhaps though more realistic battle animations, Were arrow's strike and stick in an unlucky soldier and stay in place. Similar with sword and spear thrusts were the soldier is pierced. A small blood patch should be okay.
I am thinking that too much gore will cause massive lag in large battles.

[Ulysses S. Grant]

It seems people are forgetting the Blood DLC for Shogun 2.

[Éorl]

It seems people are forgetting the Blood DLC for Shogun 2.

I just had a look at this. And laughed so hard I couldn't breathe. I believe this is a practical joke by CA to ridicule (rightfully) all those people screaming for blood and gore. This is like Monty Python - King Arthur fighting the black knight. Or the guy in The Meaning of Life getting slaughtered for donating his organs.

Realism? No. Immersive - well I had to laugh hard watching these battle scenes, that says it all.

Silly.
Silly.
Silly.

[The Roman Republic]

I just had a look at this. And laughed so hard I couldn't breathe. I believe this is a practical joke by CA to ridicule (rightfully) all those people screaming for blood and gore. This is like Monty Python - King Arthur fighting the black knight. Or the guy in The Meaning of Life getting slaughtered for donating his organs.

Realism? No. Immersive - well I had to laugh hard watching these battle scenes, that says it all.

Silly.
Silly.
Silly.

Its like CA were finding inspiration for blood, but then stumbled upon Kill Bill.

[Colonel Dax]

Its like CA were finding inspiration for blood, but then stumbled upon Kill Bill.

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