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    Default President Obama Nominates John Kerry as Secretary of State

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    WASHINGTON – President Obama nominated John F. Kerry, the five-term senator from Massachusetts, to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of State on Friday, choosing a longtime political ally who shares much of his foreign policy worldview and is likely to sail through confirmation hearings.
    Appearing with Kerry at the White House, Obama said the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee had “played a central role in every major foreign policy debate for nearly 30 years.
    “In a sense, John’s entire life has prepared him for this role,” Obama said.
    Obama settled on Kerry shortly after the wrenching withdrawal of Susan Rice, his envoy to the United Nations, as the top candidate for the post. He delayed the announcement to avoid interfering with national mourning over the mass slaying at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
    Kerry, 69, has chaired the Foreign Relations Committee since 2009. His selection gives the White House a veteran foreign policy hand who has demonstrated his willingness to work with Obama’s inner circle of advisors over the last four years.
    The Cabinet position will give Kerry a decorated Vietnam veteran who later helped lead veterans opposed to the war, a career-capping assignment that he has long sought.
    But it also risks the loss of what has been a reliable Democratic seat in the Senate. Democrats control the Senate by a 55-45 margin but face midterm elections in two years that could sharply narrow those numbers.
    Scott Brown, a Republican who lost his Senate seat in last month’s election but remains popular in the commonwealth, could run again in a special election next year. Several Democrats have indicated interest, including Edward Kennedy Jr., son of the late senator.
    Rice withdrew her name from consideration on Dec. 15 after a tenacious campaign by Republicans who said her public comments misled the country after armed militants killed four Americans at the the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, in September.
    Kerry was the only other leading candidate for the post, and his nomination is expected to easily win Senate approval. Several GOP lawmakers who led the opposition to Rice, including Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), urged Obama to choose Kerry instead.
    White House officials concede they owe a special obligation to Kerry for all he has done for Obama in politics and diplomacy. In 2004, when Kerry was running for president, he chose Obama to deliver the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention, providing the obscure state senator from Illinois an invaluable introduction to American voters.
    Republican hawks could raise questions about Kerry’s resistance to U.S. military intervention abroad in some conflicts. And a group of Vietnam "swift boat" veterans who opposed his presidential campaign have vowed to voice their objections again.
    Kerry has shared Obama’s interest in trying to talk without preconditions to adversary regimes, and he shares Obama’s desire to shift the U.S. military from the grueling ground wars of the last decade to a “light footprint” abroad.
    Kerry “would much rather solve problems by negotiations and diplomacy than by war,” said Jonah Blank, a former Kerry aide and South Asia specialist. “He’s seen war: He knows it ain’t pretty, and very often it doesn’t work.”
    At the beginning of the Obama’s first term, Kerry sought to help the White House work out a broad Mideast peace deal with Syrian President Bashar Assad – a mission that continues to come under strong criticism by Republican hawks.
    Kerry also acted on Obama’s behalf as a diplomatic middleman in sensitive talks with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and helped sooth relations with Pakistani leaders after a period of intense turmoil.
    Kerry, whose father was a foreign service officer, has traveled widely and has shown himself willing to take on the wearying drudgery of diplomacy. Also like Mrs. Clinton, he has shown an ability to talk to foreign leaders as fellow politicians, a valuable asset.
    Another arguable advantage: Kerry, a tall man with a stentorian voice and what is sometimes described as a patrician bearing, looks and sounds the part of America’s top diplomat.
    Rudy DeLeon, a former Senate Democratic aide and Pentagon official during the Bill Clinton administration, said Kerry will come to the job well versed on the issues and with relationships that will be valuable to the White House.
    “The Senate is going to be a key participant in much that the administration does on foreign policy, so his relationships there will be an asset,” said DeLeon, now with the Center for American Progress, a Democratic-leaning think tank. “And he has ties to world leaders from China to the Middle East.”
    Obama has let slip to aides that he has sometimes found Kerry long-winded. Still, it is clear Obama is comfortable working with him and Kerry has won points by being a good partner to Clinton.
    One issue for Kerry will be whether he becomes frustrated with how the administration’s foreign policy has been highly centralized in a small team around Obama.
    But foreign policy experts believe Kerry -- like Clinton -- will be willing to take orders from the West Wing as long as he believes his views are being considered.
    Kerry is less interested in management, and is likely to need a strong deputy with management skills to oversee running of the State Department.
    Kerry’s accomplishments as committee chairman include legislation he pushed, with ranking member Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) and House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman (D-Valley Village), to restructure and expand aid to Pakistan. Kerry was also an important advocate for the New Start nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia.
    Secretary Clinton has indicated that she is willing to remain in her post beyond Obama’s inauguration if necessary. But the selection of Kerry may make that unnecessary.
    I think he is a good pick... no?

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    Don't know if he's a good pick, but he's a pick that will get through the Senate.

    What I don't get is, with the Dems in control of the Senate, why didn't Obama simply push Rice's nomination through regardless of what the Republicans thought/wanted? Where there Dems who were threatening to vote no?
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    A safe pick at least.


    What I don't get is, with the Dems in control of the Senate, why didn't Obama simply push Rice's nomination through regardless of what the Republicans thought/wanted?
    It takes one Senator to block a nomination. A individual Senator can place an "anonymous hold" which requires 60 senators to overcome. This is generally not done for big nominations but with Rice it may have been politically possible for a Republican Senator to do it indefinitely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post

    It takes one Senator to block a nomination. A individual Senator can place an "anonymous hold" which requires 60 senators to overcome. This is generally not done for big nominations but with Rice it may have been politically possible for a Republican Senator to do it indefinitely.
    Thanks for that.
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    God, I wish Kerry would just go away. Thoroughly inside-the-box pick by Obama. Will certainly pass the Senate since the two Republican Heavy Weights standing in the way have approved, but really. Does anyone like Kerry?

    I can never look at him without reliving the 2004 debacle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    God, I wish Kerry would just go away. Thoroughly inside-the-box pick by Obama. Will certainly pass the Senate since the two Republican Heavy Weights standing in the way have approved, but really. Does anyone like Kerry?

    I can never look at him without reliving the 2004 debacle.

    Kerry's resume is good enough that you're forced to fall back to an embarrassing picture. Good to know he's got your implicit approval.
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    Default Re: President Obama Nominates John Kerry as Secretary of State

    So Obama's going from what I understand to have been a relatively strong and decent Secretary of State to the ultimate safe pick?

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    He caved. Just like he'll probably cave to Boner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    He caved. Just like he'll probably cave to Boner.
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    It is unfortunate that it should come to this though I suspect he's competent enough and will make a decent fist of it. It will be Republicans crying about lost national prestige if America is humiliated on the world stage, and politicising nominations to such key positions is counterproductive at best.

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    I had expected never to hear of John Kerry again after 2004, but the fact is that the guy is a workhorse.

    But what are his foreign policy qualifications? Well, he is the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and he's given some poignant thoughts:
    Quote Originally Posted by John Kerry, 2006
    You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.
    More seriously though, Kerry has been pretty much the crisis manager on the political side in Pakistan so maybe as Secretary of State he can have some influence in that part of the world.
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    "And I'm back."

    Mother ing Scott Brown Will Be Back In The Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post


    "And I'm back."

    Mother ing Scott Brown Will Be Back In The Senate.
    It fairly obvious that Obama picked Kerry so as not to endanger a dem seat in the Senate. Brown was beaten by a woman whose credentials were scetchy at best. The people in Massacusetts will vote for a pimp if they've got a 'D' by their name. just sayin...

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    Default Re: President Obama Nominates John Kerry as Secretary of State

    USA still has a ed foreign policy. Now the face is different. Same old show. We got ragheads to bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriVII View Post
    USA still has a ed foreign policy. Now the face is different. Same old show. We got ragheads to bomb.
    Shouldn't we have bombed Syria already then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    It fairly obvious that Obama picked Kerry so as not to endanger a dem seat in the Senate.
    Yeah, by picking him second this time, after not picking him in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    It fairly obvious that Obama picked Kerry so as not to endanger a dem seat in the Senate. Brown was beaten by a woman whose credentials were scetchy at best. The people in Massacusetts will vote for a pimp if they've got a 'D' by their name. just sayin...
    Yep. Even though Brown was one of the most progressive and non partisan Senators.

    He'd win in another special election though. Warren was riding Obama into office (no innuendo intended.)
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    that 2004 election was so bad....

    i think its funny that "hes a traitor", "lied about his military service", yet now hes the safe pick that republicans will accept, lol. What ing liars.
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    Default Re: President Obama Nominates John Kerry as Secretary of State

    sending kerry to clean up hilary clinton's mess is going to be a tall order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    sending kerry to clean up hilary clinton's mess is going to be a tall order.
    I know I'm going to regret this but, what mess would that be?
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